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Why shouldn't I buy an Apple laptop
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markle



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Why shouldn't I buy an Apple laptop Reply with quote

I'm in the process of getting one and I just want to make sure.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Why shouldn't I buy an Apple laptop Reply with quote

markle wrote:
I'm in the process of getting one and I just want to make sure.


I used Windows for 4 years at my university, now run on a Mac and have no complaints whatsoever (desktop and laptop at home). Anything you can do on a PC you can do on a Mac, if not better.

whats holding you back?
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Sherri



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love mine. I can't understand why anyone would bother with anything else.
Sherri
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a) You can't spend the extra cash
b) There's some program you need that ONLY works on Windows

Otherwise, go for it. Smile I had a really bad experience with Apple warranty repairs and lack thereof, but after I survived that, I've been much happier with my iBook, and I plan to bring it with me to Japan in September. Smile (MacOS handles Japanese really well, which is a bonus)
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We love ours.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: Why shouldn't I buy an Apple laptop Reply with quote

markle wrote:
I'm in the process of getting one and I just want to make sure.


I truly hope you were asking that question facetiously. Right now, I would sacrifice a virgin (or two) for a Mac laptop!

In fact, anyone know where I can pick up a reasonably priced (possibly used) iBook? I'm using the wife's laptop and she wants it back. Sad
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happyhiker



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Evil Toshiba Reply with quote

I just bought a Toshiba laptop and it is bad news all around...keyboard crapped out after a couple months.

Anyway, whenever I see my friends with their Apple Laptops, happy as can be, I will for sure buy an apple for my next computer.

Go for it! I hear far fewer complaints about Apples than any of the other brands.
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ionix-



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never buy apple because of the compatibility thing. Sure they will tell you that they can run all the program a PC can. Not quite true, they can run different programs that will achieve the same result (dvd player, photo organizer, web browser) but the fact is that only major softwares are ported from PC to mac (Photoshop, iTunes...). Many programs are windows only and sooner or later you will regret that decision. Of course, if you learned on a mac it's a different story but I found that switching from Windows to OS X was a pain. I like the way the OS X is built on unix; while the OS is superior in my humble opinion, the compatibility thing is a killer. For instance, let say you want to download a software to practice kana, you will find about 50 softwares for Windows. As for people reporting that their PC died, it is important to make a difference between an architecture (x86 for PC and PowerPC for mac) and a vendor. Maybe toshiba computers are crap but Dell's laptop are very good (Not sure if sold in Japan). Overall, I think both hardware solutions are good, the operating system for the mac is better HOWEVER the compatibility issue is a deal breaker for me... Don't hesitate to PM me, I am a computer engineer and I own both platform.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ionix- wrote:
Many programs are windows only and sooner or later you will regret that decision. Of course, if you learned on a mac it's a different story but I found that switching from Windows to OS X was a pain.


Completely subjective and personal. The first time I used Mac seriously was when I was put in charge of an office network that had both PCs and Mac. It was fun -- as all machines, regardless of platform had to use the same networked peripherals as well as share files, etc....

The desktop assigned to me was a Mac. I also found it a pain... For a while. I mean, I even went so far as to install softWindows or whatever the hell it's called just so I could use my fave programs on the Mac.

Then, at some point I came to the realization that aside from the major software that was already ported (like Photoshop, Pagemaker, etc) there were perfectly good and functional Mac equivalents for everything I wanted to do. In fact, going home to my PC, I missed some of my Mac-only apps. It took a little while, but when I thought out-of-the-box a little, I realized that I didn't NEED all that crap that I had on my home PC anyway. I achieved all the results I needed using other programs. And this was when I was doing all kinds of stuff using computers. Nowadays, all I ever do is lesson planning and materials prep using desktop publishing software, web browsing, and a few other misc. things.

Everything is just a "comfort thing." We like what we are used to, and switching to something completely new and doing it a different way is certainly uncomfortable. The key for me was to stop comparing my Macs to my PCs and to stop trying to make the Macs behave like PCs... In fact, in setting up the office LAN, and having the same number of each type of machine, it was much easier to make the PCs access a "Mac network" than it was for the Macs to access a "PC network."
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Apples really worth the added cost? I see they are about 25-30% more than PC laptops. I will be buying a new laptop next summer probably in Canada and have been thinking about the same thing. I now have a Toshiba Satellite and I hate it. The cursor keeps moving around when I type and then the text shifts over in that direction.
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bearcat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate laptops period. But I'd never use apple due to my gaming habits(apple is always late on versions or none at all in some cases).

With laptops, one part goes wrong and you gotta service the whole thing. If the key board goes on my desk top, I just replace that in a day no problem. Wife's laptop keyboard went poof and it took her a week to get it repaired and she was out 20,000 yen... thus an expensive repair.

I imagine repairs on an apple laptop would be even more than a pc one as well.

Upgrading on lappy's is generally pretty hard to do since the laptops are pretty model specific in parts. Thus you can extend the longevity of your Windows desktop.

Not to mention replacement/upgrades tend to be cheaper due to being more mass produced than that of apple ones.
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markle



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too late
already got it.

All in all we've been pretty happy with what we got. We got the laptop due ultimately to the fact you can put it in ashoulder bag and take it where you want it.

And I paid the extra money for the apple for the peace of mind since we are fairly novice users and can't be bothered with the security / software issues that come along with a PC running windows.
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lajzar



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pros and cons...

repairs: the real issue here is desktop vs laptop, not pc vs mac. Although i suspect that macs will be more expensive to service due to lower emand and relative scarcity of skilled engineers.

Games: PC all the way here.

Japanization: Both platforms are equally good now. I understand windows has issues if you want to run *legacy* Japanese apps AND legacy [random other east asian language] apps.

Price: Macs are more expensive. Lots of places in Japan will however double teh price of everything if you want it in English. Shop around.

Familiarity: unless you have a pressing reason otherwise, stick with the OS you know.

Software compatibility: You'll always be able to find something that does the job you wnat in each OS. However, you'll often find that the files used in [random app for Mac] are not readable in the windows equivalent app, and vice versa. If you need to be compatible with whatever your office uses, it is far simpler to get the same OS. You'll save a ton of headaches.

I think that's everything.
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abyssiniangrl



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like pears

preferably poached
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Jon Taylor



Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 'Acer' laptop is fantastic and all in English (keyboard, windows) and the best thing is....you pay nothing for the name.......

I cannot reccomend this company highly enough.

www.primepc.jp
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