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superdave01



Joined: 19 Jun 2005
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Location: canada

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Short introduction. Reply with quote

I have been a lurker at this forum for quite sometime now. I was finally able to complete the sale of my business, and I am just trying to tie up some loose ends. I hope to be able to find work in China for the second semester or next fall(06).
I am a 40 year old Canadian with three children, all in either university or private schools. My education background is in business admin, majoring in accounting. I am a 5th level CGA but have never practiced. I do have some experience teaching esl to small groups of Chinese students and also college level business communications.
I would appreciate hearing from any teachers who know of upcoming employment vacancies at their schools/universities. I don't have a preference for any cities in China but my students here all agreed that Chengdu or Shuzhou were nice cities. I also wouldn't mind working in any of the smaller more rural areas, or for that matter the larger northern(colder) cities. Salary is not that important either but it would be nice to find something that at least covers most of my expenses.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
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tw



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Short introduction. Reply with quote

superdave01 wrote:
I hope to be able to find work in China for the second semester or next fall(06).


I don't know of any Chinese employer or agent organized enough to be thinking about hiring for 2006 already. If anything, you will still see them scrambling for teachers in the middle of September for teachers for Fall 2005 job vacancies. So, I wouldn't worry about enquiring now. Many things can change, e.g. FT's deciding to stay for another term or even another year, FT's not being able to complete contract term, etc.

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I also wouldn't mind working in any of the smaller more rural areas, or for that matter the larger northern(colder) cities. Salary is not that important either but it would be nice to find something that at least covers most of my expenses.


If you don't mind sub-standard living conditions (as compared to Canada) and want to experience a more traditional and simpler lifestyle, then go to cities with no more than 1 million people. If you want to have some relative Western comfort, then don't. Northern cities are alright if you can handle harsh winters (unless you are from eastern/northen Canada). Places like Inner Mongolia, Jilin, and Heilongjiang can get to -30 Celsius in the winter if not colder.

Rural areas can't pay as much as big cities like Beijing and Shanghai. But then again, their cost of living is much lower. Another great thing about rural areas is they have a much more difficult time getting FT's than bigger cities so it's relatively easier finding schools that need FT's.

Regardless where you go, you most definitely will not have problem making ends meet with whatever money you will be making. On the other hand, you can be making 20,000 RMB a month and still have money problem if you are not careful with your spendings.
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Alex_P



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Location: Hangzhou. Zheijiang, China

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: Short introduction. Reply with quote

Chengdu is a very large, interesting, cosmopolitan city. The weather is very akin to that of Vancouver (I can speak to the fact, I lived in both). The weather can be very gray and overcast with mild temperatures. The winter is very short but it be a little brutal given the lack of central heating. If you want to learn standard Chinese ("putong-hwa") I would not recommend Chengdu at all. Sichuan dialect is a world unto itself. And my experience was that not everyone in Chengdu, contrary to the my-mother-told-me-otherwise stories you will hear, can speak good, standard putong-hwa. Many cannot.

Hangzhou is a wonderful city, much favored by foreigners. So is Dalian. Suzhou, if that is what you mean, is also a very good and pleasant city but their dialect is akin to Shanghai dialect ("shanghai-wa").

TW is right about the Northern cities -- they can be quite cold, but having living in Harbin, let me assure that the houses and public spaces are well-heated and that conversely to the outside temperature, the people in Harbin are some of the best persons that I have come across in China. They can be brutually direct with what they wish to say while in Chengdu the story will go-around-and-around-the-mulberry-bush until you are not being sure what you have been told.

Beijing, of coure, is great and also extremely sought after.

You may wish to ask Roger of this board his opinion's on Guangdong and Southern China.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you have the urge to move to China and you also inform us you have three kids. We only learn that you want to teach either in "Chengdu or in Shuzhou (sic)", but you fail to tell us whether your kids fancy your idea!

Have you thought of their future, their social life and their education in China? It's going to be an extremely unsettling experience of all three of them. ANd for you, it's going to be difficult to juggle finances! Enrollment at international schools costs more than you make as a TEFL.

As for Chengdu and that other place - probably SUZHOU in Jiangsu province - your choices are not bad. The climate is a little hotter than in Vancouver, and in winter it gets cold enough to warrant wearing three layers of thick clothing - in both places. Pollution will probably bowl you over.
But really, your priority should be your kids' interests!
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Roger



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you have the urge to move to China and you also inform us you have three kids. We only learn that you want to teach either in "Chengdu or in Shuzhou (sic)", but you fail to tell us whether your kids fancy your idea!

Have you thought of their future, their social life and their education in China? It's going to be an extremely unsettling experience of all three of them. ANd for you, it's going to be difficult to juggle finances! Enrollment at international schools costs more than you make as a TEFL.

May I ask: why should you want to move to China at this stage in your life?

As for Chengdu and that other place - probably SUZHOU in Jiangsu province - your choices are not bad. The climate is a little hotter than in Vancouver, and in winter it gets cold enough to warrant wearing three layers of thick clothing - in both places. Pollution will probably bowl you over.
But really, your priority should be your kids' interests!
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superdave01



Joined: 19 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Short introduction. Reply with quote

tw wrote:
Northern cities are alright if you can handle harsh winters (unless you are from eastern/northen Canada). Places like Inner Mongolia, Jilin, and Heilongjiang can get to -30 Celsius in the winter if not colder.

Temperature extremes like this wouldn't bother me. I guess I am a winter person.


Alex_P wrote:
Suzhou, if that is what you mean

Yes, that is the city i meant. I spent some time online last night looking at websites related to that city. I relied on Chinese students to provide the spelling, I guess I shouldn't have trusted the one who actually was born there!

Roger wrote:
So you have the urge to move to China and you also inform us you have three kids. We only learn that you want to teach either in "Chengdu or in Shuzhou (sic)", but you fail to tell us whether your kids fancy your idea!

Have you thought of their future, their social life and their education in China? It's going to be an extremely unsettling experience of all three of them. ANd for you, it's going to be difficult to juggle finances! Enrollment at international schools costs more than you make as a TEFL.


Roger, where to start? Well I won't do what most before have done and just tell you to kiss off, because you did provide some useful info. I will say that i have been reading this forum for several years and I have witnessed the degeneration of your posts. It is a shame because if you took the time to actually read the posts I am sure you can contribute useful information.
Please go back and read my post. At no time did i say that my kids would be coming with me. In fact i am sure i mentioned that they are all now in university or private schools. For the past 21 years (the last 15 years by myself) I have thought of nothing else but my children's future, social life and education. In that time I have raised three very independent, well adjusted children. Every one of my kids have encouraged me to head to China. I can chat with them on the phone or internet everyday from China just as easily as i can from Canada.
Even if i did bring them with me what gave you the impression that i would have a hard time "juggling finances"? I am sure that some people come to China to escape money problems in the west, most do not go to China to teach for the big salaries I am sure. I am also sure that if I can swing tuition for a couple kids in university and one in private school i wouldn't have too much difficulty providing education for them at any university in China.

Roger wrote:
May I ask: why should you want to move to China at this stage in your life?

Certainly....I can't think of a better time. I have spent well over half my life running a successful business and at the same time raising three good kids. My business is sold and my kids will all be away from home attending school. So why not know?

Roger wrote:
But really, your priority should be your kids' interests!

It is, always has been, and always will.
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