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adventuramust



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:21 am    Post subject: health exam necessary Reply with quote

I received two offers. The one said I need to fax health exam results so they could give to the school. The other said to come over on an F visa or that an L visa would be okay. The latter said I could get the medical done there for about ($35 US). I figured may the reason I wasn't told to get a Z visa was lack of the medical report so I am going thru the test right now. Looking into the visa companies it appears I would need to have the medical form notarieze and authenticated ($85). In that case I might as well do it again in China.

Doesn't an F and L visa limit me to 90 or 180 days only?

Advice please.

Thank you.
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tw



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: health exam necessary Reply with quote

adventuramust wrote:
I received two offers. The one said I need to fax health exam results so they could give to the school. The other said to come over on an F visa or that an L visa would be okay. The latter said I could get the medical done there for about ($35 US). I figured may the reason I wasn't told to get a Z visa was lack of the medical report so I am going thru the test right now. Looking into the visa companies it appears I would need to have the medical form notarieze and authenticated ($85). In that case I might as well do it again in China.

Doesn't an F and L visa limit me to 90 or 180 days only?


You don't need to have the medical report notarized if you have it filled out on the government-issued "Physical Examination Record For Foreigner" form which I can e-mail you a copy. Just make sure the doctor stamps the form. Some provinces will still issue [EDITED] the paperwork without medical exam. But you need it done in China in order to get residence permit. Also, beware that the employer telling to go there with a F visa or L visa may not be legally allowed to hire FT's.

L visa has a 30-day limit.

You may also want to get a police background check done ASAP.


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Mephisto



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey TW, can you mail me the form as well?
email = [email protected]
Thanks,
Mephisto
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Mephisto



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the by, how much would I pay for new eye glasses/wisdom teeth removal in China? Canadian prices are kinda out of whack (2K for teeth I've been told) and I'm considering doing them there. What about computer prices, etc?

Cheers, Mephisto
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tw



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mephisto wrote:
By the by, how much would I pay for new eye glasses/wisdom teeth removal in China? Canadian prices are kinda out of whack (2K for teeth I've been told) and I'm considering doing them there. What about computer prices, etc?


Dental work is CHEAP in China -- MUCH cheaper than in Canada.

This is from lat fall in Dalian:

Teeth cleaning: 40 RMB
Caps: 480 RMB for 3

This gives you an idea.

Remember $1 CDN = 6.8 RMB (more or less)

Eyeglasses are also cheaper but can be expensive if you want to go for imported designer frames (mostly Japanese and Korean). I paid 1200 RMB for a pair of glasses with frames that come with magnetic clip-on shades and I have VERY, VERY high prescription. Those glasses probably would cost twice as much in Canada.
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Mephisto



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey TW,
thanks a lot for both the form and the prices; I'm definitely waiting until I get there for all things dental. How about a decent laptop or a desk computer? I'm assuming it will be cheaper as well?
Cheers, Mephisto
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frigginhippie



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Forms Reply with quote

China Embassy's download site for Physical Exam and Visa forms
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tw



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mephisto wrote:
thanks a lot for both the form and the prices; I'm definitely waiting until I get there for all things dental. How about a decent laptop or a desk computer? I'm assuming it will be cheaper as well?


Sadly, electronics (including computers) are not significantly cheaper in China. I'd rather buy them in Canada and besides, you'll have a warranty.
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adventuramust



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: TW remark Reply with quote

By the way, Buckland Group is who made the offer, sent the invite letter and said to come over on the L or F visa.

Don't suppose there is a way to find out if there are legal to hire me?

Thanks much.
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tw



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: TW remark Reply with quote

adventuramust wrote:
By the way, Buckland Group is who made the offer, sent the invite letter and said to come over on the L or F visa.

Don't suppose there is a way to find out if there are legal to hire me?


Buckland group is a recruiting agency that quite a few forum members seem to recommend favourably.
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Don McChesney



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eyeglasses are cheap in China. For a multi-curved non-reflective lens that lets me read print, computer screen and distant, in titanium frames, one year warrenty etc etc I paid 1500Y or less than US$200. They would have cost me about A$2500 back home. (10 times as much.)
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go_ABs



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw wrote:
Sadly, electronics (including computers) are not significantly cheaper in China. I'd rather buy them in Canada and besides, you'll have a warranty.


I looked into buying a laptop in China in 2003, and found that electronic products are (as crazy as it seems) actually more expensive in China. The ASUS model I bought in New Zealand for $2,100 would've been about $2,700 had I bought it in China. And it would've had Chinese Windows.

Buy your computer back home, Mephisto!
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Roger



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this thread somewhat misleading and highly bizarre. Adventureamust: what is your first lingo? YOu are struggling with English, anyone can see that! If you want to teach in China be upfront with relevant details! Otherwise you mgiht be taken for a ride! Especially by recruiters.
Buckland is not a bad agent, I will say that.

As for the medical exam, I suppose that's changing again since the issuance of visas is now divorced from the process of applying for the resident's permit. The name 'work visa' might now be a misnomer since no one can work on a work visa any more. Thus, it doesn't matter what kind of visa you have when entering China; what you do need is an employer who can register you (sponsor you) with the authorities.
One of the criteria for hiring is that you be of good health; HIV-positive job applicants need not apply! Thus, you will no doubt have to undergo a medical exam IN CHINA; some medical check-ups performed abroad were in the past not recognised when the job holder arrived here; he or she had to undergo another check-up here.

The costs for your check-up and your resident's permit should be borne by your employer. The costs should therefore not concern you.

This explains why you can arrive here on a tourist visa. You were misinformed by someone who said a tourist visa is valid 30 days; this is true if you want it to be valid for that long a period; some consulates are known to stamp a mutliple-emonth visa in your passport. In some cases one-year tourist visas are available. The most common ones are for 3 or 6 months, single entry or multiple entries.

And don't save your money for medical services in China - dental work, new eyeglasses and the likes are not worth the money you spend since few CHinese are adequately qualified and sufficiently trained to perform such jobs! You save initially a few hundred only to regret it a while later!
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is to the point of the OP-

Pre-qualifying exam
1) a medical exam, conducted abroad, with the results forwarded to your prospective employer in China, may be required as part of the qualifying process for the issuance, from China, of the, "Foreign Experts Affairs Invitation Confirmation", a document you will need, among others, to apply for the Z visa, abroad; whether this will be required will depend on the practices and procedures in the Province of China where your potential employment is to be....
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Mephisto



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Roger and others, will keep that in mind - is the dental/medical practice in China that bad? Am I bound to get Typhoid Fever from the doctors themselves if I go for a visit? Or are they not that bad, except for the proverbial bad apples?
Cheers,
Mephisto
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