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Ryumicko
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 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: Hostel/hotel/resort industry jobs. |
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Hey all! Second thread WoOt!
Amid concerns that finding teaching work may or may not be plausible for me, i have decided to look into further employment in my current industry. That being Hostels and resorts and tourism in general. If i have work experience (respectable) in this field, and a WHV what sort of job prospects can i expect in Japan as an Australian?
cheers.
Mick. |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Not much if you can't speak the language very well. How else will you get past the interview and talk to customers, let alone deal with emergencies and the non-English-speaking staff/administration? |
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JimDunlop2
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Hostel/hotel/resort industry jobs. |
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| Ryumicko wrote: |
| If i have work experience (respectable) in this field, and a WHV what sort of job prospects can i expect in Japan... |
Absolutely none. Service industry jobs of any kind are strictly forbidden under a working holiday visa. Sorry. 
From the Japanese consulate in Japan's description of a WHV (bold=mine):
With this visa, Australian citizens need not obtain further permission to engage in remunerative activities while in Japan, provided these activities do not contravene Japanese law regulating businesses offering food and entertainment as well as any other regulations in force which affect public order and good morals.
Same as the Canadian schtick. When I got my WHV, I had to sign a seperate paper declaring that I would refrain from engaging in this type of work. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Hostel/hotel/resort industry jobs. |
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| JimDunlop2 wrote: |
With this visa, Australian citizens need not obtain further permission to engage in remunerative activities while in Japan, provided these activities do not contravene Japanese law regulating businesses offering food and entertainment as well as any other regulations in force which affect public order and good morals.
Same as the Canadian schtick. When I got my WHV, I had to sign a seperate paper declaring that I would refrain from engaging in this type of work. |
Jim, I have seen work exchange programs where foreigners would work for three months in a hotel working as in intern or low paid assistant in restaurants and house keeping to gain valuable hotel experience. they are able to come on working holiday visas and stay in hotel dormitories and food is provided. The aim is notfor them to make money or get a full time job but to gain related work experience.
The regulation above is to prevent semi-tourists working in host clubs, hostess clubs, snack bars, pachinko parlors, strip joints and in the "water trade". Bar work is apparently permissible (as long as you are over 20).
Biggest problem I see is the language and being able to deal with customers co-workers and staff who do not speak or undertand English, counting change at the bar, and bar owners and managers tend to be rather flakey and temperamental people. As it is, often they do not have the highest moral and ethical standards as well. They dont always have the highest appreciation of "international understanding" and giving foreigners a fair shake just becuase they are foreigners. They are business people and bosses, first and foremost and exploitation is often rampant in entertainment type jobs. |
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canuck
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Hostel/hotel/resort industry jobs. |
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| Ryumicko wrote: |
Hey all! Second thread WoOt!
Amid concerns that finding teaching work may or may not be plausible for me, i have decided to look into further employment in my current industry. That being Hostels and resorts and tourism in general. If i have work experience (respectable) in this field, and a WHV what sort of job prospects can i expect in Japan as an Australian?
cheers.
Mick. |
After reading the other thread too, your best chance is to go to uni, get your degree, and study Japanese there. Then come over here. |
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JimDunlop2
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Paul, that may be, but the paper I was made to sign was worded very clearly. I was not to engage in any sort of service-industry related employment. I know what the rule is trying to prevent, but that wasn't the way it was carried out at the Japanese embassy where I got my WHV...
If this indeed is not the case, then so be it. But I would proceed very cautiously becuase it seems to me that something like that could be held against you should the sh*t hit the fan, so to speak. |
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