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misslinz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Is Slovakia really that bad? Reply with quote

I know my salary is going to be about the equivalent of 500CN ... so not much but what about cost of living?
Is there the potential to make more?
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are CNs?
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Chris_Crossley



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Crowns, perhaps? Reply with quote

Hector_Lector wrote:
What are CNs?


Crowns, perhaps? Confused

The currency of the Slovak Republic is, like that of other countries, the crown, and is given the official 3-letter international abbreviation SKK. The Czech Republic also has crowns, and the abbreviation here is CZK. (Perhaps misslinz has worked in the Czech Republic?)

According to XE.com, as at 06:37:43 UTC (= GMT) today, 1 SKK = 0.767016 CZK.

Hence, it would be of help if people were to quote the relevant abbreviation in cases where more than one country has the same name for their currency, e.g., USD, AUD, CAD, NZD for U.S., Australian, Canadian and N.Z. dollars, respectively. After all, not all currencies are on a par with each other, so it is important to know which currency you are talking about!
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

500 Slovak Crowns is about 15 Euros.

Slovakia is a fairly cheap country to live in, but...

(I�m sure that even ET in Istanbul pays more than this, but we need 31 to confirm it.)
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Frizzie Lizzie



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon she meant Canadian Dollars...500 of them a month in Slovakia would make sense...
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Chris_Crossley



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: I think it's 500 Canadian dollars per year, not per month Reply with quote

Frizzie Lizzie wrote:
I reckon she meant Canadian Dollars...500 of them a month in Slovakia would make sense...


I think you're right inasmuch as she did mean Canadian Dollars (CAD), but I think she meant 500 CAD per year.

As at 14:55:43 GMT today, according to XE.com, 500 CAD = 12,839 SKK. One ad currently on TEFL.com for a job in Bratislava quotes a salary of "between 10,000 and 15,000 Slovak crowns" [SKK], so I reckon that this is the salary for one academic year (since the candidate is required to be at the school for one academic year, not a full calendar year).
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enforced poverty.

I worked for the Brutish Council in Bratislava, and even they paid more - 35,000 Crowns per month, and that was in 1994. To offer 10,000 - to 15,000 Crowns a month is pretty terrible - to accept it is worse.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: I think it's 500 Canadian dollars per year, not per mont Reply with quote

Chris_Crossley wrote:
One ad currently on TEFL.com for a job in Bratislava quotes a salary of "between 10,000 and 15,000 Slovak crowns" [SKK], so I reckon that this is the salary for one academic year(since the candidate is required to be at the school for one academic year, not a full calendar year).


Hector_Lector wrote:
To offer 10,000 - to 15,000 Crowns a month is pretty terrible - to accept it is worse.


It is interesting to note that the ad never actually said whether the "10,000-15,000 Slovak crowns" was the monthly pay or the yearly pay. Having not worked in Slovakia (whereas Hector_Lector has worked for the "Brutish" Council Twisted Evil ), I was therefore wondering whether it was the monthly or the yearly pay being quoted.

The online CIA World Factbook quotes an annual per capita GDP (purchasing power parity) for Slovakia of 14,500 USD (2004 estimate), which equates to about 412,000 SKK at the present time. That would mean about 34,000 SKK per month, roughly what Hector_Lector claimed he was being paid by the "Brutish" Council 11 years ago.

Hence, I suppose that 10,000-15,000 SKK per month is nothing more than a slave wage, considering that 10,000 SKK is the equivalent of about 2,600 RMB (i.e., CNY) in China - and that would be considered a slave wage if that was all a foreign teacher were getting per month in China.

China is, under WTO rules, a "developing" country. I don't suppose that Slovakia is considered to be a "developing" country for economic purposes, is it?! Confused It is, after all, a member of the EU!

From the CIA World Factbook at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/lo.html:

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Slovakia has mastered much of the difficult transition from a centrally planned economy to a modern market economy. The DZURINDA government made excellent progress during 2001-04 in macroeconomic stabilization and structural reform. Major privatizations are nearly complete, the banking sector is almost completely in foreign hands, and the government has helped facilitate a foreign investment boom with business-friendly policies, such as labor market liberalization and a 19% flat tax. Slovakia's economic growth exceeded expectations in 2001-04, despite the general European slowdown. Unemployment, at an unacceptable 15% in 2003-04, remains the economy's Achilles heel. Slovakia joined the EU on 1 May 2004.
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ContemporaryDog



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are, indeed, right Chris. But then TEFL has always paid far more poorly in Europe than Asia...
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EnglishBrian



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it!!! Laughing We can't be sure if a salary is per month or per year. What kind of a profession are we in?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is with great regret Hector that I confirm that English Time does indeed pay more than 500 crowns a month.

Pay-it is grocery money.

Hector -When did you work for BC-if it was 96-99 do you remember a bloke called Mark who left to go to BC Cairo and had worked in Ist?
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was there from 94-97.

I think Mark started there in 97 - I was still in Blava, having left the Council and taken a huge pay cut in order to work for a Slovak organisation. Much more rewarding for my soul.

I knew Mark, not a close matey but we did have a lot of beer together at various points.
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Mags_11



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Average Salary in Slovakia Reply with quote

Having just returned from teaching in Bratislava I can perhaps give a more accurate assesment of salaries for teaching in Slovakia. Salaries range from 12,000 Skk to 25,000 Skk a month, depending on what kind of school you are working for. State owned schools such as regular K-12 or univerisites pay at the lower end while private schools pay at the higher end. That also depends on how many hours you work, of course.

I would say most private language schools pay about 19,000-24,000 Skk a month for a full time instructor. This is also the going salary for a native Slovak who has just graduated from university and is starting in the IT sector in Bratislava, so in the scope of things, it's not bad at all. No, you are not earning a lot, but I think you'd decided to work in Slovakia, you'd have probably figured out that you aren't going to making the big bucks.

As for this previously posted comment,
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I worked for the Brutish Council in Bratislava, and even they paid more - 35,000 Crowns per month, and that was in 1994. To offer 10,000 - to 15,000 Crowns a month is pretty terrible - to accept it is worse.
I completely disagree. I worked for a univeristy in Slovakia making a salary in the 10,000 - 15,000 Skk range for a whole year and it was one of the best experiences of my life. As long as you know what you are getting yourself into and are prepared to accept the limitations, the experience is what you make of it. Of course I would have loved to be making 35,000 a month, but not all of us have the possibility to earn huge salaries working for organisations that are subsidised with funds from headquarters back in the UK.
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bitter, are we? You have the possibility to earn (sic) huge salaries if you are experienced and qualified enough.
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LHanks



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject: Bratislava pay Reply with quote

I worked in Bratislava for a year, I dont remember the exact amount that I amde I just remember it wasn't enough. I was told that there were plenty of side jobs you could teach privately, not many came along-I did a few. I supplemented my income using my credit card. I wanted to travel some and that was the only way I could do it. I didn't travel near as much as I wanted and still came home with a bog debt-that I just paid off(two years later). If you have some put away you can use that- be careful, it adds up quick!
Good Luck!
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