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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: whats the money spent on? Reply with quote

I heard today the the Saudi oil minister's daughter is getting married in The Ciragan palace at a cost of 5 million dollars (US) For a wedding?

That doesnt include booze Shocked
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course that doesnt include booze... and 5 million is the money spent what about what is goin to be spent. When i was a kid we used to live in Laleli which was green and full of families ,kids playing on the street no fights or hassles then the arabs started to rent the flats they paid the whole year's rent but stayed for 4 months and spent a lot of money. i dont hate arabs but cant say that i love them. DMB there is a saying about arabs and spending money.
"Arap yougurdu bol bulunca taşşaklarına da surermis."( sorry for the word "taşşak")

is it clear or do you need translation.Smile


dmb, this is for u...
http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2005/08/05/magazin/mag02.html
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also lots of Arabs in Antakya.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TO WHYNOTME -

Maybe clear for my fellow countryman but my Turkish is very close to zero. Translation please !
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Arap yoğurdu bol bulursa taşşaklarına s�rermiş. "
"If an Arab finds more yoghurt than he can eat, he applies it to his balls."

not a very good translation but will tell how Arabs spend their money and if they find yoghurt like this they can waste it in unnecessary ways.


say one word and i ll tell you a Tuurkish saying about it. Believe me i am very good at it . Smile
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there many Turkish idioms/phrases about arabs. I can't think of many.
Apart from arap saci(gibi)(na donmek) and arap sabunu I cant think of any. i'm sure there are though. Enlighten us whynotme
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ImanH



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm part Arab and I certainly wasted lots of money on booze at my wedding Very Happy
But I certainly don't rub any left-over yoghurt on my balls.
That might be because I don't have any.
Or it might be because I have two Scottish great-grandparents and therefore would be far too tight to treat good yoghurt so wastefully.
More likely though it's because like most stereotypes, it's simply untrue.
It seems to me the main purpose of stereotypes is to make one group of people feel superior to another.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can honestly say that in all the Scottish weddings I have been to I have never seen yoghurt at them. hmm, I wonder why we havent tried to deep fry yoghurt yet, probably too healthy.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For unhealthy diets the locals here take some beating ! (I am in Saudi)
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt mean to hurt anyone . Sorry if i did. These sayings are for Turks as well and we use them alot.
"Sular akar Turkler bakar"
"Turk�n aklı tuvalette �alışır"


nice to see you again ImanH,are u still in the south?
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ImanH



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yoghurt and scotch Confused
Thanks, whynotme - I know you meant no harm.
youknowme - can't take those generalisations!
Yup, I'm still in the south Cool
Although, I'm working more than playing at the moment.
What do those two sayings mean?
I'll tell them to my husband when he next laughs at my pronounciation - even if it's perfectly correct pronouncation of an arabic word that turkish has appropriated.
Excuse me whilst I duck. Laughing
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alterego



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
Are there many Turkish idioms/phrases about arabs. I can't think of many.


may i offer some? and i mean no disrespect to ImanH. just trying to show how racist and ignorant turks can be sometimes. you know, these sayings are examples of turkish orientalism. in order to place turkey on a western axis, an eastern culture's so-called orientalism is established and looked down on. same thing as western orientalism.

anladiysam arap olayim
ayıdan post araptan dost olmaz
icecen sarabi sikecen arabi
kahve icersen arap olursun
ne samin sekeri ne arabin yuzu
arap gibi yemek
arabin derdi kirmizi pabuc

and...golge oyunu (karagoz-hacivat) has two types of arab characters: ak arap and kara arap...
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooooohaaaaaa alterego Smile

i said balls and felt really Embarassed , your third one is just ohaaaaaaaa Smile

and "ne şamın sekeri ne arabın zekeri" is the correct version of the 5 th one. do you know what zeker is in old Turkish? Smile


arabs also dont like turks "uktul�t't�rke ve hattal ebik" is a very popular verse in their poems ( kill the turk even if he is your father )

"iyilik Allah'tan k�t�l�k T�rk'ten gelir"

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/A8F8B2C7-0E09-428A-BB9B-69C00BBE4C95/50238/NEVERENDINGSTORY.swf is designed by aljazeera tv Smile
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justme



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd check the webiste but I'm afraid the Dept of Homeland Security will harass me at the US border this weekend.... Sad
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alterego



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whynotme, absolutely ohhhaa. the thing is people say this crap and don't feel ashamed at all. i think it's best that our yabanci friends know about these sayings.

i looked up zeker ! ahhh i didn't have to learn that Smile

justme, are you flying home? how cool.
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