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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: visas to the US |
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I am wondering what to do next.
I applied for the 130-N and can get an interview after my Japanese wife does all the paperwork. She wants to get a green card to stay in the US
(in the future), but we plan on staying in Japan.
In the future I want her to be able to work in the US.
We were thinking of staying longer in Japan to save money for a house in the US.
Last December she got fingerprinted and had her picture taken in Honolulu and she hated it so she doesn`t want to do that again.
There is the B-2 visa for visitors. In the future I plan on going to the US once or twice a year, as a tourist. So I thought maybe the B-2 would be good to get, if it means she won`t have to do fingerprinting again.
Basically I don`t feel like shelling out a lot of money for the green card now since she won`t need it for years.
I can`t believe how much it costs to apply for these visas: the 130= $185
B-2 = $100
green card application = $335
What gives? For the green card she needs a police report, needs to go to a designated hospital (only 6 in Japan, 4 in Kanto, one in Kobe and one in Okinawa) and have 4 forms completed, including one for vaccinations. That costs 25,000 yen.
comments, please |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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My wife will have to go through the same process.
Deal with it. Some of it is meant as a natural screening process to protect the country against allowing undesireables.
As far as I know, once she gets her card, the two of you have about 3 or 6 months to move to the USA, then the card is void, so plan that into your schedule to save money for a house.
If your wife complains about fingerprinting, tell her that until recently, Japan fingerprinted all foreigners with work visas. |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: |
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It is because Japan is a hotbed of Islamic terrorists, and these measures are designed to make sure the USA is safe from terrorism.
Either that or people from the middle east and the UK have to go through the exact same procedure. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Brooks,
Sounds like your wife is beginning to see what gaijins go through. I've been fingerprinted going to Korea, not fun but everyone has to do it, so it isn't discrimination. I believe everyone who enters the US now is fingerprinted, possible exception to Cdns (at least I wasn't last month). |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know, once she gets her card, the two of you have about 3 or 6 months to move to the USA, then the card is void, so plan that into your schedule to save money for a house |
Glenski, I believe you are mistaken here. The reading I've done (not recently), said that as long as the card holder visits the US once every two years the card will not become void. Immigration recommends that applicants living overseas start the application process soon after marriage even if they are not sure when they will go to the US to live.
Unrelated to Glenski, if applicants wait until after two years of marriage has elapsed befor applying then the process is marginally easier. You don't have to show a backlog of photo showing you as a dating couple. Also those who get a green card before this period are on probation for the first few years in the US. At the end of the probation you must apply for a permanent green card. Either divorce or forgetting to apply voids the green card.
I sympathize with you Brooks because I will begin the process this summer for an expected move in the spring of next year. |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Gordon wrote: |
I've been fingerprinted going to Korea, not fun but everyone has to do it, so it isn't discrimination. |
been in and out of this country over the last 8 years and never been fingerprinted once. Now on my second work visa too. Maybe you just look dodgy Gord  |
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Speed

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Shikoku Land
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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....as long as the card holder visits the US once every two years the card will not become void.
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Don't mean to be picky wicky Guest of Japan but when you FIRST receive your temporary permanent residency clearance from the US embassy in
Tokyo, you MUST travel to the US within 6 months, in order for it to not become void.
The wifey's permanent green card usually arrives about a year after arriving in the US.
If the wifey goes back to Japan, she MUST return to the US within ONE year or her green card evaporates.
BUTTO, if she fill out a US Re-entry permit before leaving the US, she's allowed to stay out of the US for up to TWO years without her green card going kaput. (This is the info that you, MR. Guest of Japan, mention in your post)
PS. This is one of the reasons that my poor little wife has had to make a couple of painful refugee type exodus' to Waikiki, Hawaii from Japanland.
Poor girl. |
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Sherri
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 749 Location: The Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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We just went through this process about a year ago (moved to the US in July). It is not all that hard, though I remember being very worried about it at the time. The "interview" itself is pretty easy and it just takes place at one of the windows in the visa section of the embassy (Tokyo). It is a little pricey but I would pay the same amount for a weekend away--what's the big deal? A couple I know who moved to Australia paid MUCH more for the Japanese husband's visa process. The health check is easy, the worst part is having to lug around the huge x-ray to the embassy and to the airport (you can't bend it). As for fingerprinting--so what? I just got fingerprinted when I got my Hawaii driver's license. I also got fingerprinted at the ward office in Japan.
If you go to the embassy in Tokyo, there is a nice Danish bakery in Ark Hills where you can have a celebratory breakfast after you get your spouse's visa approved. Boy were we HAPPY when we got it!
Sherri |
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AndyH
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 417
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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I HAVE A RELATED QUESTION- I'm American and my girlfriend is Japanese. We plan on getting married in Hawaii this summer, but we DON'T plan on living in the US. At least not for the foreseeable future. Can she go to Hawaii for the wedding on just a tourist visa? It seems that this would be the case, but I'm hesitant to make assumptions based on how unreasonable INS has been to some people who have made procedural mistakes in the past. I've checked the US embassy's web site that deals with this, but they don't address this question.
If anyone can give me an answer, I'd appreciate it!!!!! |
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Speed

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Shikoku Land
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Can she go to Hawaii for the wedding on just a tourist visa? |
Sure she can. Japanese have wedding ceremonies/receptions overseas quite often these days. Especially in Hawaii. Having a wedding while visiting Hawaii doesn't break any immigration laws.
Also, your wife doesn't need a visa to visit the US (just a valid passport). Japan and the US have a visa waiver agreement. She can be in the US for 90 days without a problem if she's just visiting (and getting married to boot).
Good luck with your new life/wife. |
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LA Galaxy
Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 19 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: |
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AS far as I remember you need to have a job waiting stateside before your spouse can be approved of the temporary green card (at least I had to do this back in 2003). I had no job waiting so I had to ask my sister to sponsor my wife. I had to give the embassy my sisters last 3-4 tax returns, statement of income,etc.
We also had to show proof of whatever assets we had, and my most recent U.S tax returns. If you havent filed taxes, do them before you apply. My wife did have to get a police report and a health check. The interview was pretty much a joke, as long as you have proof of a job waiting or have a sponsor it shouldn't be a problem. yes you have to apply for the pemanent green card prior to the 2 year expiration deadline.
In terms of saving up for a house, here in Southern CA, prices are still going up. From last year, houses have gone up 20-35 percent. It seems like the prices will continue to go up. The longer you wait, the higher prices will be, but its good to save for a good down payment. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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shmooj wrote: |
Gordon wrote: |
I've been fingerprinted going to Korea, not fun but everyone has to do it, so it isn't discrimination. |
been in and out of this country over the last 8 years and never been fingerprinted once. Now on my second work visa too. Maybe you just look dodgy Gord  |
I heard they changed the visa procedures in Korea about fingerprinting foreigners. Shows you how long ago I was in Korea then. |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I'm neck deep in application papers right now, and I'm ore than a bit confused. The whole system is rigged for people currently in the US. Without a job or a residence, how do I sponsor my wife?
If anyone wouldn't mind sharing some of the details of the early legwork, I'd appreciate it. |
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Sherri
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 749 Location: The Big Island, Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Guest
I did it last year. I wondered the same thing since I hadn't lived in the States for almost 25 years. You have to show your last 3 years of tax returns (even though you were in Japan at the time and probably didn't pay anything). The next thing you have to do it show your assets (both yours and your wife's) to make up the amount they show on the documents to bring you over the poverty line. So if you only have savings (no US-based job or income) then the savings amount is large. Showing property ownership and other assets like that are OK as long as you can liquidate them in a given time (I can't remember what it is). If you don't have the required assets then you have to ask a family member to sponsor you.
Hope this helps, you can PM me if you want more info.
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 811 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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If at all possible, and especially if you have kids, go the "ask a family member in the US to co-sponsor you" route. Things are a lot easier, trust me.
Feel free to pm me for the gory details of my experience.... |
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