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voodikon



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: changing jobs, relocating: what to do about ... Reply with quote

bank account(s)
i currently have two accounts. i have the atm card for only one (the other was stolen, but i have under rmb100 in that account). i'm moving from jiangsu province to sichuan. i've heard varying information, including:
-i need to close out my account and take the money in cash to my new location (scary)
-i can transfer the money, but the bank will charge rmb5 for every 1000 i want to transfer to a new branch
-i should leave my suzhou account open and entrust somebody with my card and PIN, who can transfer the money from suzhou after i arrive
-i can continue to use my current atm card and be charged 5 yuan for each transaction because it's outside of the city the card is attached to

so, is there no domestic network even if it's the same bank? can anybody clarify what to do?

cell phone
i've heard conflicting information over whether or not i'll be able to use my xiao ling tong (ut starcomm) in another city if i change ... the card or whatever it uses. does anybody know?

i also have a mobile phone. i can simply buy a new sim card in the new city, right? how much does this cost at china mobile?

stuff
has anybody sent excess baggage via trains? how does the procedure work?

thanks.[/b]
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Don McChesney



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excess baggage,
I've just spent 2 days on a train, (hard sleeper). The couple opposite me had 3 large suit cases, several plastic bags of instant food and water bottles, about 6 boxes each of 10 kg grapes, over a dozen Hami melons in string bags, each melon weighed about 4 kg, and the whole lot was stuffed under the bottom bunk, or on racks.
Pay a couple of Y to get your luggage on early, this is done in the waiting room for the train.
First come, first served is the rule, it seems.
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voodikon



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

except i'm going to fly since it's a 40-hour train ride, and, man! i really don't want to deal with dragging all that luggage around with finding a place for it on the train.
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chengdude



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked into China Rail's freight service? If I end up moving, I'll be shipping at least half a dozen boxes with them as they're apparently a lot cheaper than China Post. I'll be checking into exact costs in the next day or two, so I'll post here just for general reference.

By the way, we're almost trading places: I think I'm going to Nanjing and you are coming to where I live now. Where will you be working?
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tw



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: changing jobs, relocating: what to do about ... Reply with quote

voodikon wrote:
cell phone
i've heard conflicting information over whether or not i'll be able to use my xiao ling tong (ut starcomm) in another city if i change ... the card or whatever it uses. does anybody know?

i also have a mobile phone. i can simply buy a new sim card in the new city, right? how much does this cost at china mobile?


Sell your Little Smart phone. It is useless in Sichuan. Whereas I can see it possible operating in a satellite city of your current city of residence, I know for sure it won't work in another province. That's the biggest disadvantage of Little Smart cell phones.

You can keep your current mobile number if you want, but you will have to pay long-distance rates on both incoming and outgoing calls. I think a SIM card is usually about 10 RMB plus whatever cost for airtime.


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nolefan



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep it simple! you'll have plenty of things to worry about in your new place so no need to create yourself more worries.

Bank accounts:

- Close the account in Suzhou and reopen one in Chengdu. Much easier than trying to wait for a definite answer from one of us only to be faced with conflicting answers from bank staff. Even in the USA, some banks might ask you to close an account and reopen if you're moving to another state.


Phone:
- loose it. Get another one in Chengdu.

Luggage:
- Get someone to ask at the train station about it. They'll give you a better answer. An alternative might be to put it on cargo in the same flight you're taking. Some airlines will allow you to do that.
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voodikon



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chengdude wrote:
Have you looked into China Rail's freight service? If I end up moving, I'll be shipping at least half a dozen boxes with them as they're apparently a lot cheaper than China Post. I'll be checking into exact costs in the next day or two, so I'll post here just for general reference.

By the way, we're almost trading places: I think I'm going to Nanjing and you are coming to where I live now. Where will you be working?


that's what i'm confused about (the rail freight service, not where i'm going). there are apparently different grades, and certain ones will do home delivery whereas others you must pick up your luggage at the other end; and besides, there might be differences in the material you can use to package your belongings. i heard the cheapest one is 1.8 yuan/kg.

i'm going to be working at chengdu business vocational college. funny that (the swap). had enough of chengdu?
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voodikon



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolefan wrote:
Keep it simple! you'll have plenty of things to worry about in your new place so no need to create yourself more worries.


heh, uplifting.


nolefan wrote:

Bank accounts:

- Close the account in Suzhou and reopen one in Chengdu. Much easier than trying to wait for a definite answer from one of us only to be faced with conflicting answers from bank staff. Even in the USA, some banks might ask you to close an account and reopen if you're moving to another state.


so how do i move the money? i don't want to carry all my savings in cash! yikes!
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lionheartuk



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I left Sichuan I closed my bank account and opened a new one in the next city I worked in. I also had to buy another SIM card for my phone at the cost of 50RMB. My other SIM card still has 200 RMB crediti on but China Unicom tell me I have to go back to Sichuan to prove my ID to enable me to have the 200 refunded. The sales assistant in Sichuan told me when I bought the SIM card that it will work in all of China.
I still have to get the refund as I am not going to let Unicom keep it.
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Chris_Crossley



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Perhaps it's not worth trying to get your money back Reply with quote

lionheartuk wrote:
My other SIM card still has 200 RMB credit on it but China Unicom tells me I have to go back to Sichuan to prove my ID to enable me to have the 200 refunded. (...) I still have to get the refund as I am not going to let Unicom keep it.


I can understand that you don't want to waste 200 RMB credit, but it may not be worth even trying to claim it if you live in another province now. Have you considered how much it will cost you in terms of both money and time to go back to get your money?

Me, if it cost more than 2 RMB each way on a bus, I would just cut my losses and forget it.
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nolefan



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

voodikon wrote:


- Close the account in Suzhou and reopen one in Chengdu. Much easier than trying to wait for a definite answer from one of us only to be faced with conflicting answers from bank staff. Even in the USA, some banks might ask you to close an account and reopen if you're moving to another state.


so how do i move the money? i don't want to carry all my savings in cash! yikes![/quote]

Sorry, just trying to be a bit practical. didn't mean to say that things would be bad there but I usually try and have a little expectations as possible.

I'm curious about one thing; What did the bank suggest as far as your accounts? I would think that banks in Suzhou are a bit more communicative and up front with their customers given the large number of expats and foreign companies in the area. They might be able to help.
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voodikon



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know. i'm scared of the bank. more specifically, i work 9-6 so the banks are closed when i'm free from work (and during lunch hour, they're also closed, apparently, or, though they have a person sitting there, for all practical purposes they're closed). i guess i could go by this weekend and ask.
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nolefan



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I remember correctly, you work around SIP, right? Why don't you give the BoC branch in SIP a call and chat with them? I believe they have a few people there that speak english fluently. I think they should be able to give you more reliable info than most of us.
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boxcarwilly



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are greater than 20kg of luggage on China Southern Air Lines, you can expect to pay 1.5% of your ticket price per kg of overweight luggage.
I will report on actual rail pricing after I ship as one really does not know pricing until after the cash is paid. But to get your stuff by rail and if you are moving North to South (Jilin to Guangdong), you may have to wait a month to get your goods. I will probably use three methods: plane for the stuff I must have, express shipping for the stuff I can wait two weeks for and rail for the stuff I can wait a month for.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More info to add to my previous post:

To ship cargo on the plane, one has to get to the airport 2.5 hours early and the rates are 10 RMB per kilo for weights under 45 kg's and 4 RMB for 46 kg's and above. It gets to the destination within one day of sending.
Shipping 50 kg's for 200 RMB by plane seems pretty reasonable to me if you need the stuff.
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