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Free-as-a-bird55 · Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: CHINA

I returned to China - have been teaching here for 18 months - to take up a Contract with the Jiangsu Education Bureau, which was advertised as intending to offer the UK-sourced NCC International Foundation Year Programme. It had been negotiated with the Chinese eWings Group over a period of 2 weeks as I attempted to ensure my position would be protected in every possible respect - or so I foolishly thought!! On return I found there never was an intention to see the contracted position in Nanjing through and when I took up the matter with the NCC representative her final comment was, "I'm sorry you've found yourself in this position." BE WARNED - THE CHINESE HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT DISHONOURING A CONTRACT AND THE UK National Computer Centre Group's CARE FACTOR IS '0'!!!!! And, 'yes', I did find and take up a quality teaching position within a week, but not with any suitable explanation or assistance from those involved in the DISHONOURED CONTRACT!!!

Texas_Gaijin · Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Wuhan, China

I'm sorry to hear that. If I were you, I probably would have done the same thing. I hope the new job works out for you here.

virago · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:

Even seasoned Chinesers can still be taken for a ride. All those beware. I am glad it turned out OK.

Under the illusion of a reputable UK business you can still get scammed.

winterlynx · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:33 am Post subject: Licking your wounds

Welcome to China! Unfortunately, this stuff happens - but even more disturbing is that it goes both ways, too. Some English teachers seem to think that because an employer behaves dishonorably, it some how justifies the same kind of behaviour from English Teachers. Not hard to see where tit-for-tat will eventually lead us. These kind of cycles have to be broken if we're going to enjoy a more stable contractual environment at some time in the future. Goes both ways, but sometimes you have to be the one that makes the decision to start it going the right way. Do the right thing.

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

Unfortunaltely, the antics of FTs will have no relation to the improvement of the working conditions..even if the FTs were model citizens and have a work ethic that is golden..the business culture would continue to take advantage of foreign workers..the only thing that will improve out lot is goverment regulation and enforcement...

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

You may suggest anything you like ole man...but the statement stands..if there were regulations and enforcement..there would be less reasons to run (and less places to run). How can any employer expect a FT to treat them as valid employers if they treat contracts as if they were suggested outcomes rather than a promissary note. Some of you guys think that FTs come to this board to gain justification...when what they clearly request are methods to insure that they are able to get out of bad situations or maybe to post alerts when they are hurt and desperate because they trusted in an unworthy system..What they have not requested are lectures from posters that talk sideways out of both mouths...
I self edited my post as to not be so hard on the Chinese employer in question..I dont know this employer and sometimes will let my past experience with half truths and broken contractual promises...influence the way I respond to any given tale of ESL woe..

May I suggest you rephase your statement one more time and lets see if you can get it right this time...