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Theshoveller



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Legal Question Reply with quote

Is it legal for your school owner to ask for photocopies of your passport before you leave Japan?

Couldn't this be used for identity fraud?
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Your school has no business with your passport at all, really... Other than perhaps ensuring that you have a valid work visa stamped in there when you start working for them.

Why on earth would you comply with such a request? You are leaving -- they're not going to fire you and they certainly have no legal recourse to force you to do so...
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Theshoveller



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jim,

I'm still safe on that one because they were asking for it tomorrow. I was just worried that if I didn't comply they would try messing with my last paychecks or something. I know that would be illegal but when you can't afford legal council what good are laws anyway?

But I'll be sure not to give it to them now.
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madeira



Joined: 13 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would they want that? Anyone know? Are there any possible legitimate reasons?
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Celeste



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THe only thing that I can think of is that they might be trying to get your pension refund. But they can't do this with only a copy of the passport, they need the exit stamp as well.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celeste wrote:
THe only thing that I can think of is that they might be trying to get your pension refund. But they can't do this with only a copy of the passport, they need the exit stamp as well.


Celeste, to my knowledge you can only apply for the refund after you have left the country, not while you are still in Japan. Not sure what it has to do with the employer anyway and Im sure they would know this.
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Theshoveller



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do people on one year contracts get pension and if they do will the amount really add up to any significant money?

Are there forms I need to get while I'm still in Japan?
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theshoveller wrote:
Do people on one year contracts get pension and if they do will the amount really add up to any significant money?

Are there forms I need to get while I'm still in Japan?


In Japan you get refunded what you put into it depending on how long you paid premiums, paid on a pro-rata basis. If you pay for 36 months for example, you will get the equivalent of 2.4 months salary in a refund. Pay only 12 months and you get back the equivalent of 0.4 months salary or 120,000 yen (see http://www.jetprogramme.org/e/new/pensionratechange.html for the actual amounts)

If you get a refund the government will take out 20% in taxation but you can apply for a waiver or this taxation.

For example, a JET teacher paying 20,000 yen a month in pension premiums over 3 years or 36 months will pay 720,000 yen in premiums. At the current rates you will get back 2.4 times 300,0000 (JET salary) or 720,000, minus 20%. If you are on JET one year you will get the pro-rata rate for one year.

If you take it out before it becomes due and owing to you, then it doesnt become a pension but simply forced saving.
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