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sushi
Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: Hostess Bars |
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Ok so me and a buddy had nothing to do one night, so we walk into this bar type place, and are made to feel quite welcome. Nothing to it. Just a few guys and a Mamasan and her female helper. Everyone is friendly and polite, so we drank a few bears and sank a few songs on the Karaoke. It was fun.
Anyway we went back a few nights later and there are two young ladies in there as well. I invited one of them to sit with us and we bought her a drink. She was quite cute, and spoke English quite well. Turns out that the two girls are students at Tohouku university and doing part time work as hosteses during the week. Their job it seems is to drink with customers and sing with them as well. Nothing unto-ward about that I guess, so long as they get customers to buy drinks. They gotta be bright and on a high to keep the men at the bar, so I guess they turn on the charm to get the guys to buy drinks.
Most girls at these places I would gather are there to attend to the customers。 Any other sort of sleeze behaviour would be frowned on
Have found that a lot of the girls want to practice English and will sit with you the whole night just to talk. Many of them want you to sing certain obscure English songs with you that they are all familiar with , but I enjoy the singing part, so I am happy to oblige. Even when the songs they like are kinda off the planet.
Men bring little booklets with the songs that they like, and that they practice when they are at the hostes bar. Beats me why they would go to such lengths over singing, but then again The Koreans have their number "18" song which they sing to show off when they are all to-gether.
Prices at these places vary.Have been in ones where they charge only Y2,000 for the entire night. Think that was a ploy to try and get us to return, because they charged us more next time round |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'll bite. In my time in Japan I've visited a couple snacks, a hostess bar with Japanese hostesses, and a filipino bar. None of them are cheap.
If you go, expect to spend at least 10,000 yen per person. Also, never order drinks. Just drink the whiskey that is provided. I give the filipino bar the best review because everyone speaks English. Pathetically, I spent the evening discussing the trials and tribulation of being a foreigner with my very cute hostesses. They'd much prefer to be English teachers. |
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Synne

Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 269 Location: Tohoku
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know how to reply...
...I went once with three of my Japanese male managers. I had an evening of fun I guess, if you would call sitting and speaking English to the only English speaking girl hostess the whole night and listening to the same karaoke songs you hear everywhere being sung over and over again.
The hostess seen did not appeal to me much actually. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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So you experienced your first hostess bar. Umm, congratulations? I wouldn't make a habit out of going to one. And, it's not like you were the first to discover them.
What does that have to do with teaching in Japan? Was there a question embedded in the original post? |
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sushi
Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: |
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No question hidden in the posting, just was surprised that they would be the hangout places for cute female students trying to make a buck. Maybe there isn`t that much about english teaching, but it was a good intro to another side of Japnese culture.
Did they borrow the idea from the Koreans or did the koreans borow the idea from th Japanese. Seems to be standard practice throughout the orient now that i think of it |
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Synne

Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 269 Location: Tohoku
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Most girls working at those pubs are there to hook you.
Almost 90% of the time they could care less about you unless you are willing to go back and see them again, when they are working next, in order for you to spend more money at their pub.
Their boss will usually have a rule enforced that they are not to see customers outside of the work area. This is not always listened to though seeing as it is nearly impossible for the boss to find out if they actually did do this, but keep in mind that most hostess girls, that do go out with their customers on their own time are usually going for "cash for sex".
Don't be tricked into thinking that they think you are some super special guy, chances are they just want your cash. |
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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 353 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Their boss will usually have a rule enforced that they are not to see customers outside of the work area. This is not always listened to though seeing as it is nearly impossible for the boss to find out if they actually did do this, |
I am wondering if the person responsible for writing the NOVA rulebook worked as the boss of a hostess bar in a former life....................  |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I've met a couple of gaijin guys who've got girlfriends they met in hostess bars. My own ex-girlfriend used to be a hostess before I met her and said all she ever did was stir drinks (yes, I know, not like she'd tell me!) and I dated another girl who was a hostess at the time, and she said it was pretty much the same.
I don't think that just because a girl works in a hostess bar she'll only talk to you to get you to come back. Yeah, that's their job, but hostesses are not immune to attraction, you know. Maybe only to Japanese salarymen! The worst thing is that such a large proportion of the cute girls in this country are working on Fridays and Saturdays when many of us foreign guys would like to talk to them. In this country people pay to talk to me!
Ok, so this thread isn't about teaching, but then not like all the others are, is it?
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Synne

Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 269 Location: Tohoku
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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cornishmuppet wrote: |
I've met a couple of gaijin guys who've got girlfriends they met in hostess bars. My own ex-girlfriend used to be a hostess before I met her and said all she ever did was stir drinks (yes, I know, not like she'd tell me!) and I dated another girl who was a hostess at the time, and she said it was pretty much the same.
I don't think that just because a girl works in a hostess bar she'll only talk to you to get you to come back. Yeah, that's their job, but hostesses are not immune to attraction, you know. Maybe only to Japanese salarymen! The worst thing is that such a large proportion of the cute girls in this country are working on Fridays and Saturdays when many of us foreign guys would like to talk to them. In this country people pay to talk to me!
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It's a wonder why some of us are stereotyped. |
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Bozo Yoroshiku

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 139 Location: the Chocolate Side of the Force
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:17 am Post subject: |
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guest of Japan wrote: |
None of them are cheap. If you go, expect to spend at least 10,000 yen per person. Also, never order drinks. Just drink the whiskey that is provided. |
A (cute) friend of mine owns a snack in the Tanashi area. I don't think I've ever paid more than 6,000, even after a night of ordering drinks for everyone. Don't know if that's because it's cheap there, or if I'm getting the "friend discount". Only the bartender speaks English there, and no actual "hostesses"; it's just a cool place to hang with my friend while I'm in town, talk about old times, and meet up with an expanding group of her friends. It's all networking...
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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cornishmuppet wrote:
I've met a couple of gaijin guys who've got girlfriends they met in hostess bars. My own ex-girlfriend used to be a hostess before I met her and said all she ever did was stir drinks (yes, I know, not like she'd tell me!) and I dated another girl who was a hostess at the time, and she said it was pretty much the same.
I don't think that just because a girl works in a hostess bar she'll only talk to you to get you to come back. Yeah, that's their job, but hostesses are not immune to attraction, you know. Maybe only to Japanese salarymen! The worst thing is that such a large proportion of the cute girls in this country are working on Fridays and Saturdays when many of us foreign guys would like to talk to them. In this country people pay to talk to me!
It's a wonder why some of us are stereotyped. |
Because in other countries guys don't talk to girls. |
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