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ramakentesh
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 Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: Cost of ARC? |
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| Would an amount of $4500 sound correct for the cost of processing an ARC? I was quoted an amount of $1500 for lodging the application (not including medical), $1000 for something else and $2000 for something that needs to be done at the 'police' - giving an amount of $4500 - this sounds a little higher than what others have suggested here so I did a search - nothing about the numbers came up. |
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Xenophobe
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you converting a tourist visa into a resident visa, or do you already have a resident visa? If not, you can expect to pay NT 3 000 for that (at the Bureau of Consular Affairs), NT 1 000 for your ARC fee (which you need to apply for within 15 days of getting your Resident visa, from the Foreign Affairs Police) and anywhere from NT 1 000 to NT 1 500 for your medical, which you need to get first.. Make sure you have lots of passport size photos. |
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Ilanian
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| NT 1 000 for your ARC fee |
I'll just add this is per year of validity.
eg 2 years, NT 2000 |
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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Would an amount of $4500 sound correct for the cost of processing an ARC? |
There is no charge incurred to you or your employer when processing an ARC.
You may or may not have to pay for your medical exam.
If your employer is charging you a processing fee then they must have an approved license from the occupational governement of the ROC on Taiwan for ROC cronies to extort money from you or they are acting as illegal labor brokers.
You should immediately file a written complaint with the Council of Labor Affairs in Taiwan via certified fax through a local post office.
That should be followed up a with a written report to the Ministry of Justice corruption reporting hot line so as to ensure that your first statement to the CLA is not lost in the trash can with all the other official reports sent to the CLA.
Be sure to send original signed copies to both agencies via certified mail within two weeks.
Taiwan Corruption Reporting Hotline
0800-024-099
http://www.moj.gov.tw/chinese/index.aspx#
Taiwan Council of Labor Affairs Hotline 0800-777-888
Call 0800-777-888
If you would like to contribute your report into a database being compiled to document ROC government corruption and incompetence please scan it and send it, as a jpeg attachment to:
[email protected]
Good luck!
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:52 am Post subject: |
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More misinformation from Aristotle.
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There is no charge incurred to you or your employer when processing an ARC.
You may or may not have to pay for your medical exam. |
There are costs involved in securing an ARC. These include the cost of the health check, work permit application, resident visa application, and ARC application. Some schools cover these costs others don't.
It is wrong however to insinuate that a company that tells you that you need to pay for this is doing something wrong.
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| If your employer is charging you a processing fee then they must have an approved license from the occupational governement of the ROC on Taiwan |
I don't agree.
A school could definitely offer to handle these affairs for you for a fee if they wanted to. There is no law against that. They couldn't however insist that you pay a service fee, and you would always have the right to do it yourself.
Personally I would always do it myself but I can see that it would be an advantage for some people in some cases to just let the school do it for you or even to charge you a little bit for the time taken.
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You should immediately file a written complaint with the Council of Labor Affairs in Taiwan via certified fax through a local post office.
That should be followed up a with a written report to the Ministry of Justice corruption reporting hot line so as to ensure that your first statement to the CLA is not lost in the trash can with all the other official reports sent to the CLA. |
If everyone followed Aristotles advice and actually made complaints when there was no grounds for these complaints then it is logical that the system would get bogged down and wouldn't work as efficiently as it currently does.
People should ensure that they have a legitimate complaint before they try to take action against an employer and despite the misinformation posed here by Aristotle, I hope that the OP will be able to do this. |
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Xenophobe
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| There is no charge incurred to you or your employer when processing an ARC. |
Yes there is! It's NT$ 1000 a year for the initial card and every year after that, you reside in Taiwan, LEGALLY!! Your employer may cover the cost or they may not. You pay this money to the nice people at the FA police, when you pick up your card or when you submit the form. You pay the other fees at the hospital and the Bureau of Consular Affairs. They aren't scamming anyone, while you on the other hand, are posting false and misleading information that could possibly cause problems for someone new to Taiwan. |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:41 am Post subject: |
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What kind of visa are you applying for?
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Table of Visa Codes
Date of Commencement: October 1, 2003
Code Reason or capacity Qualification
A
1. Managerial-level staff engaged (as office employees) by, or investing in, foreign companies recognized under the Corporate Law of the ROC
2. Fulfilling agreements or contracts
3. Foreign cultural or artistic groups performing in the ROC
1. Employment as permitted Under Clauses 1 to 7 and 11 of Item 1 of Article 46 of the Employment Service Law;
2. Applicable to Article 19, V of the Implementation Regulations of the Employment Service Law;
3. Applicable to the Ministry of Education�s Regulations Governing the Permission and Management of Foreign Nationals Employed for Artistic Performances; or
4. With the permission of other competent authorities at the central-government level
B
Business Engaged in commercial activities
P
Touring, visiting, visiting relatives
Undertaking non-commercial or unremunerated work, general social visits, touring, and other activities for which permits are not required
DC
Diplomats and consular officials stationed in the ROC, and their dependents Foreign missions referred to Article 2 of the Privileges and Immunities of Diplomatic Missions and their Staff in the Republic of China Act
Officers of intergovernmental organizations in the ROC, and their dependents Foreign missions referred to Article 2 of the Privileges and Immunities of Diplomatic Missions and their Staff in the Republic of China Act
FO
Employees of foreign institutions stationed in the ROC, and their dependents Foreign missions referred to Article 2 of the Privileges and Immunities of Diplomatic Missions and their Staff in the Republic of China Act
FD
Contract employees of foreign institutions stationed in the ROC, and their dependents In accordance with Article 49 of the Employment Service Law
ER
Cases of emergency rescue In accordance with Subparagraph 4 of Article 7 of the Enforcement Regulations for the Issuance of Visas to Foreign Passport Holders
IM
Participating in international conferences, Commercial, Exhibitions or other events An �international conference� is a multilateral meeting involving parties from three or more countries, yet which is not necessarily organized by an international organization
FS
Foreign students Pursuing studies in accordance with the Regulations Governing Foreign Students Studying in the Republic of China at institutions
FC
Overseas Chinese students Holding foreign passports and pursuing studies in accordance with the Regulations Governing Overseas Chinese Students Studying in the Republic of China
FR
Conducting research 1. Studying Chinese
2. Pursuing religious studies in accordance with the Ministry of the Interior�s Instructions for Foreign Nationals Wishing to Apply for a Visa to Pursue Religious Studies in the ROC
3. Other permitted research activities
FT
Undertaking internships or training courses 1. Undertaking internships at foreign institutions in the ROC, or with the permission of the competent Central Government authorities
2. Training must be ratified by the Ministry of Economic Affairs� Investment Commission (Applications to train workers will be made in accordance with the Principles Governing Local Enterprises that have Invested Abroad, or Moved Manufacturing Operations Offshore).
FL
Foreign workers Foreign workers coming to the ROC in accordance with Subsections 8 to 10 of Article 46 of the Employment Service Law
R
Religious advocacy Implemented in accordance with the Employment Service Law
TS
Foreign spouses of ROC nationals with household registration in Taiwan
TC
Foreign minors who are the children of ROC nationals with household registration in Taiwan Single persons under the age of 20
OS
Foreign spouses of ROC nationals without household registration in Taiwan
OC
Foreign minors who are the children of ROC nationals without household registration in Taiwan Single persons under the age of 20
HS
Foreign spouses of Hong Kong or Macau residents Foreign spouses of Hong Kong or Macau residents who have legally acquired residence in Taiwan
HC
Foreign minors who are the children of Hong Kong or Macau residents Single persons under the age of 20 who are the children of Hong Kong, or Macau residents who have legally acquired residence in Taiwan
SC
Foreign spouses of persons from the mainland area Foreign spouses of persons from the mainland area who have acquired residence in Taiwan
CC
Foreign minors who are the children of persons from the mainland area Single persons under the age of 20 who are the children of persons from the mainland area.
SF
Foreign spouses of foreign nationals Foreign spouses of foreign nationals who have legally acquired residence in Taiwan
CF
Foreign minors who are the children of foreign nationals Persons under the age of 20 who are the unmarried children of foreign nationals who have legally acquired residence in Taiwan
J
International exchanges Academic and cultural exchanges based on treaties or agreements, or permitted by central government agencies
V
Volunteers Permitted by the competent authorities in accordance with Subsections 1 and 11 of Paragraph 1 of Article 46 of the Employment Service Law and the Provisions of the Volunteer Service Law
O
Persons engaged on official duties Diplomatic and courtesy visas issued in accordance with Articles 6 and 7 of the Enforcement Regulations for the Issuance of Visas to Foreign Passport Holders
T
Travelers in transit Staying briefly at an airport or port before traveling on to other countries or areas
TR
Changing a visitor visa to a resident visa Originally entering Taiwan on a visitor visa
VF
Changing visa-exempt status to a visitor visa Visa-exempt entry into Taiwan
VL
Changing a landing visa to a visitor visa Entering Taiwan on a landing visa
WH
Persons undertaking part-time vacation employment According to Subsection 2 of Paragraph 1 of Article 19 of the Enforcement Rules of the Employment Service Law, no working permit is required
X
Others Visiting (residing in) Taiwan with the permission of the competent authorities
Note: Please visit the website of the Bureau of Consular Affairs at :www.boca.gov.tw for information regarding the visa requirements.
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It may be that your e,mployer is applying for you to work as something other than a teacher ( writer, editor, consultant etc..).
Filing a report will do no harm to you. It will not be a problem to your employer so long as they are acting in accordance with any one of a number of conflicting laws and regulations.
Make a complaint, you will be doing all your fellow teachers a favor!
Good luck!
A. |
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ramakentesh
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| tempting... I asked her about it and she says its because the ARCs aer transferable - therefore she could pay for it, and then lose money when i transferred somewhere else straight away.. |
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ramakentesh
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| tempting... I asked her about it and she says its because the ARCs aer transferable - therefore she could pay for it, and then lose money when i transferred somewhere else straight away.. |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: |
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In fact everything but the work permit is pretty well transferable to some degree and in my experience it is only the work permit that schools pay for. I realize that some schools do offer to cover all of the other costs, but that is their choice. There is no obligation for them to do so either legally nor morally.
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| It may be that your e,mployer is applying for you to work as something other than a teacher ( writer, editor, consultant etc..). |
How does this persons situation suggest that there is something amiss in his or her employment process?
| Aristotle wrote: |
Filing a report will do no harm to you. It will not be a problem to your employer so long as they are acting in accordance with any one of a number of conflicting laws and regulations.
Make a complaint, you will be doing all your fellow teachers a favor! |
I don't agree with you on this.
Filing frivolous claims over every little thing bogs the system down and frustrates the people handling the claims. In cases such as this one where there is no basis for making a complaint your 'complaint' would likely be thrown in the trash where it belongs, but it may also cheapen the value of a complaints system. This does not help other foreign teachers who may have legitimate complaints.
Everyone should exercise their rights by lodging a complaint where one is valid, but please don't follow Aristotles advice and make complaints about every little concern and question that you may have. |
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