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Luna Chica



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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Location: Trujillo, Peru

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject: Language Problems Reply with quote

What are some classic problems that Spanish speaking students have? I am planning to go to Peru next year to teach. I lived and taught in Japan previously and there were problems that nearly all Japanese students shared. The classic trouble with "R" and "L" trouble understanding that you don't play skiing etc.

What's your experience in Latin America?
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do a Google search, you'll find quite a few web sites dedicated to this topic. Here's one: http://www.angelfire.com/fl/espanglishtips/ .
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Location: Guatebad

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It

/v/ and /b/

S-V-O order

to name but three.

(Edited to move a misplaced close bold tag)
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a book called "Learner English" that compares other languages with English and gives really good information about what problems to expect.

http://www.cambridge.org/elt/elt_projectpage.asp?id=2500393
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go rent (or download?) the movie Born in East LA. The Hollywood steroetypes of Spanish-speakers speaking in English often apply correctly.

As stated above, and some from my experience...

B/V
words that end in -ed (fitted, fixed, faced)
Z
dipthongs (ie, ei, ea, ou, etc, etc)
long and short vowel sound (hill, hive, heel, hell)
TH
Wood, would, good
G
J
Y

Among many others...
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make and do.


Minimal pairs. (Ship and sheep.)

Understanding the present perfect for unfinished situations or actions.



Regards,
Justin
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Understanding the present perfect for unfinished situations or actions.


I was working on that today! Have you ever ridden a camel? if anyone recalls New Interchange, Level 1, Chapter 10.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a classroom variation of the classic drinking game, "Have you ever?," also sometimes called "I've never..." in order to try to get that one across. And yes, New Interchange is EVERYWHERE in Latin America. Level one, unit 10 and I are well aquainted.

Justin
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Riding the bus Reply with quote

For some reason a question from an advanced EFL student from Peru in the US sticks in my mind: "why do you ride 'on' the boos, not 'in' the boos?"
I found the pronounciation of "bus" to be great- I wish we did pronounce it with a long 'u' in English because it sounds better. It was a very practical and immediate question too, since the student "took" a bus to class (another English idiom)
Generally Peruvians seem to think of English speakers as being distant and cold. Kissing the cheeks when saying goodbye is quite common. I imagine its quite, quite different from Japan.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Riding the bus Reply with quote

Cdaniels wrote:
For some reason a question from an advanced EFL student from Peru in the US sticks in my mind: "why do you ride 'on' the boos, not 'in' the boos?"
I found the pronounciation of "bus" to be great- I wish we did pronounce it with a long 'u' in English because it sounds better. It was a very practical and immediate question too, since the student "took" a bus to class (another English idiom)
Generally Peruvians seem to think of English speakers as being distant and cold. Kissing the cheeks when saying goodbye is quite common. I imagine its quite, quite different from Japan.


EXACTLY the same in Mexico.

"You need to get down the bus at so-and-so stop"
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Luna Chica



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
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Location: Trujillo, Peru

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if English seems cold than Japanese would be positively Antarctic. It is very, very hard to get Japanese students to have a real conversation together and a debate? Forget it!

I have quite a few Peruvian friends who are married to Japanese women and they say they find Japanese women in general very beautiful, but very cold. They often like the convenience of a Japanese wife (Japanese Visa) and the warmth of another foreign bit on the side.
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Ms. Atondo



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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Location: Back in Canada for now...snackin' on a Pizza Pop

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever ridden a camel....that just gave me horrible flashbacks...I was teaching kids and they would not move on until they knew what a camel was. Picture and all they couldn't seem to grasp why anyone would ride one.

Biggest pet peeve - the -ed ending. To me that is the biggest give away that they are not a native English speaker

P.S. Have they changed the section on Hip Hop clothing yet in New Interchange? Please tell me they have, that was almost unbearable to teach as it is so out of date!
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