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scott14



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: How did this happen to me! Reply with quote

After refusing to do privates for five years in Asia, I find myself needing to agree to do them in Mexico. The problem is that I don't know what to charge for hourly lessons. They are professionals in a small town who want one to one classes in their homes. What should I charge them per hour?
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fairest way to price lessons is answer these two questions.
How much do you make an hour at your job?
How much would they pay an hour at a private school (you said it's a small town, if there isn't an English school there, how much would they pay at the next largest town)?
Then split the difference.

Another way if find out how much some other type of private classes taught by a professional in that field costs--for example how much to one on one piano classes cost? Charge the same.

Or just think, how much is my time worth to me? and charge that--this is what I do an the prospective students always decline the classes!!! Laughing
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can scout around to see what others are charging in your area and follow suit.

Consider if you'll be having student over to see you or if you travel to see them. (oops, you mentioned that already!)

Also, consider what happens if the students cancel or no-show.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Also, consider what happens if the students cancel or no-show.


I've always had suggested to me to get students to pay in advance for classes (like a month, or 10 classes, or whatever seems best) and with cancellations, less than 24 hours notice means you get to keep the money for the class but don't have to reschedule, more than 24 hours means they have the opportunity to reschedule without having to pay more.

I'm considering taking on private students here, and wouldn't do so without the above conditions.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've always had suggested to me to get students to pay in advance for classes (like a month, or 10 classes, or whatever seems best) and with cancellations, less than 24 hours notice means you get to keep the money for the class but don't have to reschedule, more than 24 hours means they have the opportunity to reschedule without having to pay more.


Spot on. That's fair.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Spot on. That's fair.


Thanks Guy Wink . I'm glad I'm not as flaky with my advice as I was last week - something went a bit wrong with the grey matter there... Shocked
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
Or just think, how much is my time worth to me? and charge that--this is what I do an the prospective students always decline the classes!!! Laughing

Indeed. I value my personal time highly; if a prospective student wants to cut into that than he/she had better be prepared to pay through the nose!
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since we're on the topic, how about a poll on what private classes are worth where you are?

From what I see in Mexico City, the average for a native-speaker private tutor is 150 pesos per hour. I've seen a little lower and I've also seen as high as 500 pesos per hour. I gather those are all one-on-one classes. Groups might be different.

I've one student right now that's a private...a neighbour in my building. I'm charging her 225 for a 90 minute class, twice a week. If her dog continues to bark all night, I might raise that up a bit for earplugs.
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delacosta



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, just how much would our time be worth? Due to the ridiculous split schedule that I work I wouldn't do privates for less than 500 an hour, and only would consider doing it at all because I'm re-doing my house and am quite cash strapped these days.
I've been asked too many times to count and have never accepted privates.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: sucker Reply with quote

I got suckered to do private lessons for the sister of my landlord. They beg very well Laughing Im doing it in exchange for rent. At least I dont have to worry about getting paid!
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delacosta wrote:
Yes, just how much would our time be worth? Due to the ridiculous split schedule that I work I wouldn't do privates for less than 500 an hour, and only would consider doing it at all because I'm re-doing my house and am quite cash strapped these days.
I've been asked too many times to count and have never accepted privates.


Ah split shifts...another gem of Mexico. Another quick poll...who does split shifts? I still do, more or less. It's common in DF, especially in the company class circuit. Early mornings, nothing mid day, afternoon classes. It is conducive to acquiring a siesta habit though.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

500 pesos and Hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where do I sign??????????

Laughing

I think it really depends a lot on where you are. You are not going to be able to charge very much in small towns. When I was in Comitan, the going rate was 50/hr. (4 years ago) Travelling was not a big deal there, however no shows were a problem.

If you have to travel to give the lesson, you should charge accordingly.

I think in Queretaro, the going rate is between 60 - 100 pesos per hour, and that depends on who the client is and where the lesson will be held.

Anyway, I hope this helps.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Ah split shifts...another gem of Mexico. Another quick poll...who does split shifts?

I do. 8 AM to 1 PM, a three hour break, and then 4 PM to 7 PM. Most of my co-workers complain, but I have to say it still beats my old teaching schedule in Asia...


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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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500 pesos and Hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is certainly the exception and not the rule. I only saw that advertised once.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't talked to anyone who does private classes lately, but anywhere between 30 and 60 pesos per hour for one-to-one was the going rate here a couple of years ago. I think 50/hour is still common in these parts, and for groups of up to 4 students, 100/hour per group.

I know of one very small private language school that just opened in my neighborhood and is charging 15 pesos per hour for classes. I'm sure the classes will be small with 1 to 5 students per class.
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