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zandmoloney



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: What's the truth? Reply with quote

It's getting very hard to find out real details about life in Taiwan. There always seem to be two sides here, the very negative (teacha, Aristotle etc) or mostly positive (Clark, popfly etc).
It seems to me business in Asia is pretty much the same from country to country, there are snakes and honest business people, you just need to keep an eye out.
Is this a fair assesment or are things really bad in Taiwan? (Serious answers please as that is my preferred destination).

Also, what is my best option, working in a Buxiban or a public school in terms of remuneration/experience?
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Girl Scout



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Location: Inbetween worlds

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best option is working in a buxiban. The pay is better. However, the problems you incur are more numerous.

No, everything is not bad, its just totally different.

The of the reason people tend to beleive things are bad in Taiwan are cultural. It is more difficult to spot a bad business here. By the time you realize you're working for a snake or more likely an idiot you are already under contract and have leased an apartment. You have commited yourself.

You also have to know how to play the face game. This is their island and their rules. They are not going to change just because some foreigner says they don't like something. I find that many FT don't want to play their games. These are not forward thinking people and they don't deal well with problems. Once you understand the people culturally you handle the day to day events and even control some of them.

One of the other down sides currently is the number of teachers applying for jobs. There is a lot of competition.

Your experience in Taiwan means nothing to anybody or any school outside of Asia.
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zandmoloney



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Girl scout, I think I understand the 'face' situation after my time in China, culturally I think I should be ok.
You suggest there is a lot of competition, will I be able to get a decent job with experience (a year) and qualifications (CELTA and BA)?
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teacha



Joined: 25 Aug 2005
Posts: 186

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zandmoloney wrote:
Girl scout, I think I understand the 'face' situation after my time in China, culturally I think I should be ok.
You suggest there is a lot of competition, will I be able to get a decent job with experience (a year) and qualifications (CELTA and BA)?


Maybe, maybe not. There's simply too many teachers here.
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Pop Fly



Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacha wrote:
zandmoloney wrote:
Girl scout, I think I understand the 'face' situation after my time in China, culturally I think I should be ok.
You suggest there is a lot of competition, will I be able to get a decent job with experience (a year) and qualifications (CELTA and BA)?


Maybe, maybe not. There's simply too many teachers here.


There are too many teachas here, to be sure.

Teachers? Not really. You'll be fine. Just remember, looking for a job is a job. Treat it so.
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Miyazaki



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are very few real native English teachers here.

Most are just 'fakes' or 'frauds.'

Where else can an uneducated, pot head walk in off the street and be hired right off the bat without any experience or training?

Taiwan is the the land of plenty for odd ball, undeducated and even criminal native English speaking expats.

And the real shocker is that this government tolerates it!
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Pop Fly



Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miyazaki wrote:
There are very few real native English teachers here.

Most are just 'fakes' or 'frauds.'

Where else can an uneducated, pot head walk in off the street and be hired right off the bat without any experience or training?

Taiwan is the the land of plenty for odd ball, undeducated and even criminal native English speaking expats.

And the real shocker is that this government tolerates it!


Interesting observation? So, if your hypothesis is true, why is Teacha having so much trouble finding a job?
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