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		Prince Frog
 
 
  Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 6
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: ESL as a launching mechanism | 
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				Hello,
 
 
I was wondering how possible it is to use ESL in the RF as a means to find better, higher paying work. Specifically, with average Russian and the gumption to try to find something with a better wage, how likely is it that this is possible? I would be interested to read some personal stories of how people got work over there. I know this is an ESL forum, but perhaps some of you have had experiences in other lines of work within the RF. Thanks everyone. | 
			 
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		31
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| No it is TEFL or nothing. | 
			 
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		steven_gerrard
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I wouldn't agree with that- I have known a fair few people here in Moscow who came over here as EFL teachers and then went to work for other companies (KPMG, Shell, The Moscow Times, Reuters, to name but a few). Not easy but it does happen. However, I have no idea if this is the easiest route to such work in Russia- you may be better off applying from wherever you are now and missing out the EFL part altogether. | 
			 
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		Trojan Horse
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I only know people who were employed from their home country and went over to Russia with all the benefits of an ex-pat life-style, lawyers etc. They get an excellent deal but I don't know what your chances would be. There are a few jobs on here but nothing mind boggling, might give you an idea of the job scene though:
 
 
http://www.expat.ru/vacancies.php | 
			 
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		coledavis
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Well, my knowledge is anecdotal but here goes:
 
 
I met an English guy with a degree in Russian and a Russian wife; he couldn't get any job in Moscow other than ESL. 
 
 
On the other hand, I speak very elementary Russian - real khoroshoa, privyet stuff - but in a  provincial city some hundreds of miles from Moscow, I was invited (practically headhunted) by a university (ok this would have been more poorly paid than an ESL school but more fun) and also by an industrial firm wanting my skills as a computer programmer combined with the comparative rarity of having an Englishman that far out in the sticks.
 
 
I guess that means that you might have more luck where Brits are less 
 
commonplace.  Not that I'd gamble heavily on it. | 
			 
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