|
Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
kratos
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 2 Location: NEW ZEALAND
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: Hi! I'm a newbie with lots of questions! (sigh) |
|
|
I'm a 30 year old male New Zealander and am looking at working in Japan next year through the Jet programme as an ALT. Obviously, though, before I do that I have an incredible amount of questions to ask and information to learn. Hopefully, I'll also make some contacts in Japan, so that I'm not totally overwhelmed by the sheer other-ness, and, I'm presuming at times, the loneliness and isolation of the situation.
Please tolerate my questions, if someone else has asked the same ones I have, and know that I am very appreciative of anyone out there that can, and is willing, to help. Thank you, in advance.
I've read that some people have their accommodation paid for them by their employers: is this an across-the-board definite, because the New Zealand Jet website does not make any mention of this?
Do you have accommodation already established for you, when you first arrive in Japan, or are you left to get that yourself? And, for that matter, how much should I expect rent to be, on average, if I have to pay it?
Is 3.6 million yen per year really enough to live on (I'm not going to Japan to save money but to see, firsthand, a culture totally different than my own, so I just want to survive, and do things like go out, movies, Internet, gym, train travel, etc.)?
How much clothing etc. will I need to take with me? I'm 6 feet three inches tall, and am wondering how easy/difficult it is to buy clothes and shoes for my above-average size.
Are there any New Zealanders out there that can give a purely Kiwi perspective on the whole situation?
Thank you, again, to anyone that responds. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: Re: Hi! I'm a newbie with lots of questions! (sigh) |
|
|
Hi Kratos, Im a Kiwi long term resident in Japan (almost as long in Japan as i was in New Zealand and thats saying a long time)
| kratos wrote: |
I
I've read that some people have their accommodation paid for them by their employers: is this an across-the-board definite, because the New Zealand Jet website does not make any mention of this?
|
Employers do not pay for accomodation but they pay any key money and some companies subsidise your rent. Free accomodation is virtually unheard of, unless you live in a room above the school or with the owner.
On JET you might replace an existing JET and move into an established apartment. The Board of Education who pays your salary will pay your key money. Free board is rare on JET.
You will either move into an apartment and if one is not available your supervisor will introduce you to real estate agents who will show you suitable places. In general you pay key money agents fees and the first months rent up front, some places also demand 'gift money' to the landlord which is a glorified bribe for renting the apartment to you. Key money is by and large refundable but some landlords take out money for cleaning , replacing tatami flooring and any damages that are caused.
| kratos wrote: |
I
Do you have accommodation already established for you, when you first arrive in Japan, or are you left to get that yourself? And, for that matter, how much should I expect rent to be, on average, if I have to pay it?
. |
There are several choices
Find your own accomodation e.g. gaijin house which is like a hostel with private rooms and shared kitchen facilities. Pay weekly or monthly rent and no key money. Cheap but you lack privacy. Theft is common I believe in gaijin hostels.
Privately rented apartment, pay your own key money and monthly rent. Apartments are bare when you move in and your employer can go guarantor with the landlord. Good if you dont want your boss controlling your job as well as the roof over your head or interfering in your private life.
Employer provided accomodation. This can be anything from a spare room above the school to a furnished apartment. Most employers will pay key money (bond in NZ) of 3-4 months rent. Usually you pay agents fees if you go through a real estate agent. NOVA and AEON provide accomodation for teachers. NOVA teachers pay per person in a ashared apartment and AEON pay 42,000 yen a month if you rent their apartments. If you rent somewhere else they still take the rent out of your salary, meaning you pay two lots of rent. JETs usually get furnished housing or you may get subsided public housing, depending on the area and what they offer you. Some JETs have been known to get given 100 year old farmhouses living in the country.
Rent depends on area, size of apartment and the closer you are to a railway station the more expensive it will be. Prices vary anything from 40-70,000 yen a month for one room.
| kratos wrote: |
I'
Is 3.6 million yen per year really enough to live on (I'm not going to Japan to save money but to see, firsthand, a culture totally different than my own, so I just want to survive, and do things like go out, movies, Internet, gym, train travel, etc.)?. |
300,000 yen a month is plenty for one person, airfare is paid for and rent may be subsidised. JET is the best taxpayer-funded junket in Japan and you can save quite a bit of money. Some have been known to save 100,000-150,000 yen a month after expenses. this will depend on your lifestyle and how careful you are with money. A conversation school salary you can survive on but a JET salary is a good deal more and you can actually enjoy the experience. Dont forget also JET will take out a large chunk in health and pension payments- this is compulsory. You get the pension premium payments back after you leave Japan which is about 720,000 yen if you do three years on JET. Consider it forced saving.
| kratos wrote: |
I
How much clothing etc. will I need to take with me? I'm 6 feet three inches tall, and am wondering how easy/difficult it is to buy clothes and shoes for my above-average size.
s. |
If you come in August it is mid summer so plenty of light clothes. Summer here is 38-40 degrees and winter is below zero in places. I live in Kyoto and it snows in winter.
I am 165 cm, average-height for Japan but small for NZ. M sizes in shirts in New Zealand are L-size here. If you have big feet you had better bring lots of your own shoes (e.g. over a size 9 or 10). I know guys over 6 feet and though i have no idea where they buy clothes there are shops for big/tall people and I think sleeves on shirts will be either too long or too short. Shoes will be your biggest worry though. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
van-island
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 18 Location: deep in the Japanese countryside
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| go check out big daikon for the real deal on JET |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| van-island wrote: |
| go check out big daikon for the real deal on JET |
Big Daikon is frequented by JETs who have far too much free time on their hands. I would also recommend reading the book "Importing Diversity: Inside the JET program" by David McConnell. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
stretch
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 59
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: JET |
|
|
Kratos,
I'm with PaulH on this one. Big Daikon is full of the bad experiences of JET. I'm one of the very happy JET folk.
My story in a nutshell...
I was on JET in rural Japan with my wife (she was not working, but just hanging out for a year ie. she lived off my salary.)
We were able to save a tonne of money each month and still do whatever we wanted for fun/dinners and trips. We toured all of Japan by car on a 2 week drive. I flew to Thailand for 3 weeks. However, one thing you'll find on JET is that every situation is different. My situation was that I had paid accomodations and a free car (fully loaded subaru legacy! -bought new for me because they were worried that I was too big for the previous car) I'm 6'5"/195 cm so I'll answer your clothes questions later. I was also given extra conversation classes to teach one night a week by the board for which they paid me cash. So in all I got paid about 350,000 a month with only my pension deducted. I definetly lived the high life while in Japan. Bummer, now you made remember what it was like to have a disposable income. As well, I forgot to mention that my apartment was also fully equiped. Fridge, stove, washer, spinner, tv, vcr, futons, sheets, tatami that I didn't have to replace, kotatsu etc etc...
As well, in my prefecture it was rare for a JET to NOT have their accomodations paid for. I'd say about 80% of us did if not higher. On that note one of my friends whom I travelled with from Toronto to Japan on JET ended up in downtown Osaka and she ended up paying thru the nose for her apartment.
As for the clothing issue, you must bring everything. At your height you might be kinda s.o.l. especially if you have feet above size 10-11. I'm size 13 and had to have my shoes sent from Canada if I needed a new pair. Clothing was similar, if I needed a long sleeve shirt, forget about it. Same with pants, I'm a 36" inseam and that just isn't available in Japan. Perhaps there are some custom shops for taller folk but they are not everywhere and certainly not in rural Japan where most JETs are located. My second day in Japan I had to try to go to a department store in Tokyo near the hotels that we stayed at to buy a dress shirt because I packed mine in the wrong bag. I was taken care of by about 3 ladies in each store I went to who fussed over me tremendously but couldn't get a shirt that fit, not even short sleeve. (shoulders too wide) Anyways, so for me the clothing thing was a big issue as was hitting my head a lot on low ceiling and other stuff dangling from above.
From my perspective and many many others in my prefecture we had an awesome experience. The JETs in that area are very tight if you want to become part of that group. BTW I was in Yamanashi-ken.
Hope that helps. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
|
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Look on here as well
Survey completed by over 300 JETs. Negative in tone but has some nuggets of truth if you dig deep enough.
Most JETs enjoy their experience on the program and I have heard a few horror stories (one girl I talked to in a rural location was serially sexually harassed by her boss) and 50% of JETs do not renew contracts after one year.
http://www.zen13795.zen.co.uk/jetsurvey/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kratos
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 2 Location: NEW ZEALAND
|
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated.
Stretch: I'm already buying xtra-large clothes over here, because either clothes sizes are getting smaller or I'm getting bigger! lol. I'm 6'3'' and 105 kg/230 pounds and I'm finding my shoulders are almost too wide for xtra-large! Shoe size, in N.Z. of 10 or 11 so 13 - 15 in U.S./Canada size I guess. Us big guys must stick out pretty well, over there! lol. A serious question: how do Japanese approach you/treat you, being so much bigger, I'm presumng, than the average Japanese? Is there any reluctance/hesitation/trepidation/etc. on their part?
Just a thought: how realistic/expensive is it to purchase custom-made clothes?
I hope no one minds if I regularly post questions I cannot find answers to. I guess I'm just a bit concerned about the simple little things I take for granted here, like buying clothes/shoes, watching movies, etc. Thanks again |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
|
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| kratos wrote: |
A serious question: how do Japanese approach you/treat you, being so much bigger, I'm presumng, than the average Japanese? Is there any reluctance/hesitation/trepidation/etc. on their part?
|
"Big" is a relative term, where you have sumo wrestlers who weign up to 200 kilos. Most japanese are shorter than your average Kiwi but you get a lot of six-footers here. Though being short i wouldnt really be able to answer that question.
There are tailors in Osaka and Kansai if you want to get suits and shirts custom made. I used to meet a tailor who flew from Hong Kong every 2-3 months to show me new fabrics. I have no idea about prices but one guy in Kobe is Mohan Tailors who advertises a lot in KTO. Do a search and he may have a webpage. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
stretch
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 59
|
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject: Being tall in rural Japan. |
|
|
Ok you get stared at enough for being gaijin now being 195cm amplifies that quite some. You'll get stared at a lot. Get used to hearing "Se ga takai!" from lots of little kids (and adults too) everywhere you go. However, once you make it out of rural Japan nobody will notice as there are tall foreigners.
I used to also play as the ringer for the local basketball team in my town and it was interesting experience to say the least. The first time I went up to dunk in a game against a competing town, the other team parted like the red sea to let me. Then the other team cheered...
Remember though, I'm talking rural Japan. My town was about 7,000 or so. The "big city" next to us was like 20,000. When I finally ended up playing in Tokyo tournaments the other teams where definetly more interested in stopping me from dunking than watching and cheering me like a side show act.
As for the custom clothes I never bought any in Japan but did buy a lot on a trip to Thailand while I was there. Now that place is cheap! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling. Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|