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chelsea



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: MA TESOL or MA International Education Reply with quote

I just finished an English teaching job overseas and came back to the US to start grad school. I have already been accepted into an MA program in International Education. I applied for this before I left to teach English, and now that I've had experience teaching and learned more about the field, I am thinking seriously about getting my MA in TESOL instead.
Another thing is, a friend of mine just finished her MA in TESOL, and talking to her has also swayed my thinking. It just seems like there are more job opportunities with an MA in TESOL, and it may be a better fit for me. What else am I qualified to do with an MA in International Education, besides work for university study abroad programs (this was what I was planning to do with that degree)?
I am hoping someone out there can tell me more about the field of International Education and TESOL. What are somethings I should consider while I'm trying to make a decision about which degree to pursue?
Thanks!!
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web fishing



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are interested in teaching ESL, I would say MA in TESOL. As far as MA in International Education, I believe most work with non-profit organizations, or like you said work in study abroad programs. A site Nafsa.org might give you more information on International Education, or even contact the Department of International Education at the university you applied and ask them what job options there are after one graduates.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An MA in Int'l Ed - sounds good - but I suspect is a bit like a degree in history or art - few real work possibilites. When was the last time you saw an advert asking for someone with such a degree?

MATESOL - probably a much more workable path.
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chelsea



Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: thanks for writing back Reply with quote

thanks for writing back! i am waiting to hear back from an advisor at the school i was accepted at, and i also talked to an advisor at a University that offers an MA in TESOL. i just wanted to post here so i can get as much information as i can.

so, i thought i was totally ready to start grad school, but i think i will probably defer the program i was accepted into, and spend the next few months doing some more research.

what other MA degrees has anyone out there got besides an MA in TESOL that has led to an international type job? i want to do somehing practical, and the MA in TESOL seems good since i could use it to work at a community college or private school in the states and also use it to teach overseas.
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Chris_Crossley



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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: MBA got me my current job but I'll do an MEd, too Reply with quote

I have an MBA degree, which I got six years ago, and it is thanks to this (albeit partly) that I have got my current job at a school, where my title is Lecturer in English for Academic Purposes (EAP), since the minimum academic qualification to get a job here is a master's degree (by which I mean postgraduate, not an undergraduate master's degree like a 4 or 5-year MEng or even a 4-year Scottish MA).

My job is not so much teaching ESOL, but teaching them the study skills that they will need when they leave after our one-year (or, in the case of some students, half-year) programme to go to the UK or Australia to study for either a bachelor's or a master's degree. I myself am involved in the pre-master's programme (or PMP, to put it in the school's parlance).

Having said that, I am going to study for an MA (or MEd - the degree title is up to me) in Applied Linguistics on a distance-learning basis with the UK Open University, which includes a TESOL module, albeit one completely based on theory, with no practical element, so it is by no means the same as a DELTA or the Trinity Diploma in TESOL. I will be starting it in February 2006 and, all being well, I will finish it by October 2008.

My hope is that I might be able to get a well-paid job with the master's degree back home by the autumn of 2009, by which time I would also have accumulated eight years of TESOL/EAP experience. I imagine that I might get an EAP lecturing job at one of the universities involved in the parternship to which my school is affiliated, provided, of course, that there is going to be a vacancy, but there are (so far) 19 universities, all based in England, in the Sino-UK partnership, so I could be spoilt for choice! There is also a Sino-Australian partnership involved, so I could even try for a job in Oz! Very Happy

It is of interest to note that Chelsea wants to study for this degree at graduate school on what appears to me to be a full-time basis. Would it not be better, say, to study it on a part-time or even distance-learning basis? In that way, one can always work and study at the same time. By studying full-time, one is restricting the opportunities for making extra income, whereas part-time or distance-learning study means that one can continue to work full-time and receive both an income and continuing experience, which are vital if one intends to continue in the profession. In my case, it is a necessity, since I have both a family and a brand-new apartment to pay for over the next few years.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can one get an MA in TESOL while abroad? I know there is Temple in Japan, what other possibilities does one have?
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know there is Temple in Japan, what other possibilities does one have?


Cruise down to the Thailand Forum.

Click on The Master Index Thailand.

Now scroll down toward the bottom

to Appendix B ...


and scroll down a bit more.


You'll find quite a few MA options

to browse through on a rainy day.


Hope that helps. Wink

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Chris_Crossley



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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Postgraduate degrees in TESOL Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Where can one get an MA in TESOL while abroad? I know there is Temple in Japan, what other possibilities does one have?


Further to my previous posting (and while we are on the subject...), I have already started my master's degree in Education (Applied Linguistics) degree with the Open University (UK) and I am still here in China! You need 180 credit points at postgraduate level and courses can be worth either 60 or 30 credit points each. Go to http://www.open.ac.uk and follow the links to education courses or type in "F01" in any search box to find the information about master's degrees in education.

My first course is worth 60 points and is called "The Teaching of English to Speakers of Other Languages Worldwide" (the course code is E841) and was developed jointly by the Open University and Macquarie University (Sydney, Australia). 60-point courses usually run over 8 months and require students to devote on average about 14-15 hours of study per week. If you are studying this course outside the European Union, you will need to pay GBP 1,525 (this is the fee for 2006, but may go up in 2007) and you can pay by Visa or MasterCard. The official start date of the course is February 4, 2006, so there may be still time to register if you are at all interested.

Alternatively, you can study an MA in Applied Linguistics (TESOL) with Macquarie University. The web site address for the Linguistics pdf brochure is http://www.mq.edu.au/postgrad/PDFs/LING.pdf. You need to accumulate 40 credit points of study and most courses are 4 credit points each.

Hope this helps.
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VanIslander



Joined: 21 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whichever one you are more likely to finish.

Seriously.

A Master's is a Master's.

It's much more important to ensure you get one than it is to worry about which one. Which one can you afford? of more interest to you? is manageable in terms of workload? etc.

Afterwards, work experience, conferences and publishing in a journal (not so hard) set you in whatever direction you want.
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