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*newbie tries again* job market in january

 
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wanderingwonderwoman



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: *newbie tries again* job market in january Reply with quote

i am coming to istanbul in january, and im curious what the job market is like at that time. i realize that the school year starts in september, and i am interested in working in a university if possible.

i am a certified teacher (although its expired!) with a celta cert.

thanks so much for any help that you can give me.
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justme



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you already sent out resumes? For January, your best chance is finding a school with teacher's who've bailed or where they've added extra classes for some reason...
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justme



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you already sent out resumes? For January, your best chance is finding a school with teacher's who've bailed or where they've added extra classes for some reason...
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molly farquharson



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to work in most univs you need to have a masters degree, probably in TESOL or linguistics. you might look at language schools and then look for univ work while you are here.
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wanderingwonderwoman



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: istek Reply with quote

thanks for that. good to know.

heres the deal:

ive been offered a job with istek (kartal branch) and having read some stuff about it here, im nervous. i need to tell the lady yes or no pretty soon, and the thing is: the job looks great on paper, and i would like to have a job that looks that good (on paper). but i would not particularly like to have a job that ends up being significantly less-than-good in real life. so if im pretty sure that i can get something decent on arrival, i think i would prefer to, so i can suss it out visually rather than relying on paper.

is the job market more or less decent year round?
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wanderingwonderwoman



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: istek Reply with quote

thanks for that. good to know.

heres the deal:

ive been offered a job with istek (kartal branch) and having read some stuff about it here, im nervous. i need to tell the lady yes or no pretty soon, and the thing is: the job looks great on paper, and i would like to have a job that looks that good (on paper). but i would not particularly like to have a job that ends up being significantly less-than-good in real life. so if im pretty sure that i can get something decent on arrival, i think i would prefer to, so i can suss it out visually rather than relying on paper.

is the job market more or less decent year round?
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not need a Masters degree to work at the following universities` prep departments:

Bilkent, Beykent, Yeditepe, Bahcesehir, Bilgi, Atalim, Dogus, Kultur, Izmir Economics, Bosphorous, ITU and many more.
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: istek Reply with quote

wanderingwonderwoman wrote:
thanks for that. good to know.

heres the deal:

ive been offered a job with istek (kartal branch) and having read some stuff about it here, im nervous. i need to tell the lady yes or no pretty soon, and the thing is: the job looks great on paper, and i would like to have a job that looks that good (on paper). but i would not particularly like to have a job that ends up being significantly less-than-good in real life. so if im pretty sure that i can get something decent on arrival, i think i would prefer to, so i can suss it out visually rather than relying on paper.

is the job market more or less decent year round?


No the TEFL job market is bad all year round. Of course you can get a job at a language school all year round bar the summer but it will be a five to six pound an hour job with few conditons. Beware of a PM that will offer you a crap job.
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whynotme



Joined: 07 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Loyd wrote:
You do not need a Masters degree to work at the following universities` prep departments:

Bilkent, Beykent, Yeditepe, Bahcesehir, Bilgi, Atalim, Dogus, Kultur, Izmir Economics, Bosphorous, ITU and many more.


For Kadir Has,Fatih and Halic you dont need either.
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not give out false information to newbies.

Add Isik Uni to the list
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with a 5-6 pound an hour job? That's 10-12 USD an hour, in a country where life is a fraction of the price. That's how much I make, and I'm making more and living better that I'd be in the US, doing what I love. Sure, I could make a bit more in the States teaching high school or Uni, but it would be far more soul-sucking...
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Life is a fraction of the price??????

Try bringing up kids here and see if life is a fraction of the price.

Perhaps we could start a new thread with things that are more expensive here than in our home countries.
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wanderingwonderwoman



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: y gracias Reply with quote

thank ya'll so much for the info...especially the uni list.

coffeespoonman: i take it you are living just fine with a language school salary. do you have a split schedule, unconsecutive days off, or trouble getting enough hours? how are the conditions in your school?

and for everyone else out there, another quick question: if it was you, would you take a job with istek?

thanks thanks thanks
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wanderingwonderwoman:
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if it was you, would you take a job with istek?


I work for Istek for three years at the Şemia Şakir on Bagdat Cad. I had a good time. I was always paid on time and had no real problems with the foundation. The accomadtion center in Uzay Soka (space street) has been done up and is very good. Also I was given privet health insurance, which you need in this city.

So overall I was happy. Now to the bad. The kids can be a real pain. They can get to you, the school will pay lip service about supporting you. That's crap, your on your own. Either you sink (go join a Mc Enghlish school) or swim. Some of the meetings you have to go to are useless and Parents can be demanding.

Then again the hours leaves you free to pick up privet and extra work for beer money. You save the wage and live off your extras. It's not a bad set up if you can handle the kids.

P.S I left for another school that paid more. Will leave this one as soon as find some place that will pay more. Wink
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: y gracias Reply with quote

wanderingwonderwoman wrote:
thank ya'll so much for the info...especially the uni list.

coffeespoonman: i take it you are living just fine with a language school salary. do you have a split schedule, unconsecutive days off, or trouble getting enough hours? how are the conditions in your school?

and for everyone else out there, another quick question: if it was you, would you take a job with istek?

thanks thanks thanks


You are welcome to the uni list.

If you do opt for a language school job you can basically forget the idea of not doing split shifts or having 2 consecutive days off. You will have to take every hour going because there are only about 7 good months which has to last you 12 months.

In January there is a holiday so you will only get 2 weeks work at best. Your first 3 months pay will go on getting accomodation and then you are heading for June when the work dries up. Full hours will not start again until Sept at best.

Even allowing for a lot of keeping your mouth shut and brownosing you cannot get full hours for more than 7 months.

Calsimsek is spot on about the type of kids you get at private schools and you will be walking a tightrope with no support from Turkish teachers or management. Turkish managers are spineless and look after number one-you will have to too.
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