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steve simpson



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Korea/taiwan do i need a degree Reply with quote

i wish to teach in either and have a CELTA and 10 years of teaching but no degree/diploma.Is there a way/opportunity?
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wix



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not legally. Korea recently had a crackdown on teachers working without degrees. In both countries a degree is necessary to obtain the official visas/work permits.
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therock



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been told that if you are on a student visa in Korea you can work up to 20 hours a week. Your best bet to work in Korea or Taiwan is to get a student visa and study, then in your free time work teaching English.
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Jared



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve simpson. Check out http://www.cie.ca and click on the "University Degrees Offered" link.
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JohnConnor



Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

therock wrote:
I have been told that if you are on a student visa in Korea you can work up to 20 hours a week. Your best bet to work in Korea or Taiwan is to get a student visa and study, then in your free time work teaching English.
I've heard contradicting views on this. Some say it's legal, some say it's illegal. But if I were to go in on a student visa, how many years could I teach before the authorities in either country get suspicious? Also, would those on a student visa just look in a news paper or contact recruiters with reguards to finding a job teaching English whether or not they have a degree? Which cities in Taiwan or Korea would you recommend?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Korea, immigration and the authorities are seriously cracking down on all any non-degree holders. In the past, many had fake degrees. Now immigration is verifying them as well.

This month, December 2005, they are even calling in all currently legal teachers to go into the immigration office to once again bring in and confirm their their 4-degree college degrees are once again valid.

In short, there is absolutely no way at all to work in Korea legally without a valid 4-year college degree.
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memorabilis



Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not need a four year degree. You need a university degree (this is the same as a 4 year in the US) In some countries like Canada and the UK, you can get a 3 year university degree.

Otherwise, yes, you are perfectly correct!
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you don't need a degree to teach EFL legally in Taiwan.
You can get a work visa with a TEFL cert.
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mick_luna



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm told that one can teach in japan without a degree, with sufficient work experience, but it is uncommon. i don't know if that would apply in taiwan or korea. i understand taiwan also has the student visa working opportunity.
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Jared



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar Strength wrote:
No, you don't need a degree to teach EFL legally in Taiwan.
You can get a work visa with a TEFL cert.
When did that law change? Every time I go on job boards and look for esl jobs in Taiwan, they all say that you need a degree. How exactly would I find work in Taiwan with no degree?
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Calories



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not try China? No degree needed here.
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Jared



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calories wrote:
Why not try China? No degree needed here.
I am going to China in a couple weeks. Too bad the pay in China isn't as good as in Taiwan. I just wonder where Solar Strength got his idea that you can get a work visa in Taiwan with only a TESOL certificate. And if it is possible how would I find a job in Taiwan once I leave China considering the fact that every job posting says that you need a degree to teach in Taiwan? And with the tensions between Taiwan and China, is Taiwan going to be safe for very long considering the fact a war could break out any time?
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dvasas



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jared wrote:
Solar Strength wrote:
No, you don't need a degree to teach EFL legally in Taiwan.
You can get a work visa with a TEFL cert.
When did that law change? Every time I go on job boards and look for esl jobs in Taiwan, they all say that you need a degree. How exactly would I find work in Taiwan with no degree?


That is wrong, you need a degree OR a diploma and TEFL cert. for Taiwan
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twinkletoes



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan is cracking down on fake degrees right now. Actually, Taiwan is cracking down on English teachers right now, period. I wouldn't recommend Taiwan until it's clear just how far the government is going to go. There's a lot of hysteria right now due to recent drug busts involving Canadians and it's creating a lot of hostility towards Westerners.

I'm losing friends left and right and wondering who is going to e deported next. Sad.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dvasas wrote:
That is wrong, you need a degree OR a diploma and TEFL cert. for Taiwan


This is correct. Taiwan considers an American AA degree to be a 'diploma'. So, a 2-year degree with a TEFL would be legal.

Steve, have you carefully looked into getting a degree? There are so many online degree programs in the US right now and some of them will give you substantial credit for life experience. I just put an entry on my blog today about this. Check out this site.

Taiwan will not accept a distance degree but Korea doesn't have that stipulation.
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