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freebeacher
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 76
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: Which City?????? |
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Hello. I would like to teach English in Japan. I have decided I do not want to live in Tokyo due to the high prices I read about and the vastness of the place. I would prefer a smaller city, but not a small town. I would like to be able to associate with lots of other English speakers. I thought Naha on Okinawa would be ideal as I hate cold weather, but am told most of the jobs are taken by wives of U.S. miltary personnel. I also hear there is a lot of tension between Japanese and Americans there.
Of Nagasaki, Fukuoka, Kagoshima, Nagoya, or Osaka, which should I consider, and why?
Thank you very much. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Nagoya, since it would be the easiest place of those mentioned in which to get a job.
But of those cities it may be the least interesting. |
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spidey
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 382 Location: Web-slinging over Japan...
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:38 am Post subject: |
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It might be easier to offer you some advice if we had a general idea of what your qualifications were.
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Synne

Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 269 Location: Tohoku
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Which City?????? |
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freebeacher wrote: |
I thought Naha on Okinawa would be ideal as I hate cold weather |
Japan...cold?  |
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Japan (and I'm basically talking about Shikoku) it the COLDEST country I've ever lived in -- and the HOTTEST! And I've lived in both Germany and Saudi Arabia. How can this be so?
Simple. Japanese houses seem to be designed only for those few weeks a year when the weather is actually nice. During the relatively moderate winters down here in Shikoku I can often see my breath at night as I'm laying under the futon. During the muggy summer season doing anything more strenuous than watching NHK makes the house seem like a sauna.
Solutions? An odd assortment of curious devices some old some new: electric carpets, fluffy quilt-like jackets, space heater that look and move like electric fans, air-powered futon warmers, chemical heating patches, kotatsu heated tables, electric slippers, etc. And in the summer, electric fans of varying sizes, plastic uchiwas, mugi-cha and lots of watermelon. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Yes, most of Hokkaido gets pretty cold for 4 or 5 months. Down to -30C in some cases. |
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canuck

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Which City?????? |
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Synne wrote: |
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Osaka in the winter? It's cold. Hokkaido in the winter...very good.
Osaka in the summer...hot and humid.
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[Japan...cold?  |
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: |
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I've heard that many regular jobs in Hokkaido actually provide a "heating allowance" in addition to normal salary and bonuses.
All in all, at least in Western Japan (Southern to anyone outside of Japan), winters are pretty mild. We get a handful of snow days a year and it's usually gone an hour later. So by the standards of most of the northern hemisphere it's hard to complain about cold Japanese winters. Korean winters are much more fierce.
But then why am I so COLD in the house from January to March? Sometimes I feel like running outside just to warm up a bit. |
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nomadder

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 709 Location: Somewherebetweenhereandthere
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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By the looks of your picture perhaps you spent too much time in Saudi.  |
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Aaah! So THAT's why I've been so cold! I just have just stop wearing white cotton dresses! |
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parrothead

Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 342 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Of the cities you've listed Nagasaki City probably comes closest to meeting your preferences. It is in Kyushu, so the weather is warm 9 months of the year and the cost of living is generally lower. It has a history of international interaction, so I am sure you would be able to meet plenty of other English speakers. It is a medium-size city (400,000) with ample nature and great public transportation. |
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freebeacher
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 76
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject: Where in Japan |
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Thank you for the replies.
Spidey, I have a B.A. in Humanities from a U.S. university. I do NOT have any TEFL qualification. I worked for a few years in the investment business. In the smaller cities I mentioned would I be able to teach adults exclusively? Is there a big demand for "Business English" outside Tokyo?
Brooks, you suggested Nagoya. Why is it the easiest of the cities named to get a job? Is it really ugly? Polluted?
Parrothead you mentioned Nagasaki. Is it as easy to get a job there as in Nagoya?
I ran into a former teacher here who taught in Omuta, a small town near Fukuoka. He said it was very polluted and he was about one of a handful of foreigners. He liked Fukuoka, though. He also said Japan had the LOWEST priced produce and food. I was surprised he said this as all of us have heard about $15 melons, etc. He said some areas in Tokyo were like that, not the smaller places. He said salmon and eggs were incredibly cheap, among other things. 100 yen stores were invaluable to him for many other things.
Will any schools arrange a job and certificate of eligibility while I am in the USA, or insist on my arriving there first? The former teacher I ran into here said he made the equivalent of about USD3000. per month. Does that sound accurate? I saw a lot of jobs advertising pay of Y 250,000, which is way short of $3000. More like $2200. I didn't ask him if the balance was made by private lessons or some other work. Do the schools pay/reimburse airfare and pay the rent?
Thanks for all the interesting responses. Please keep them coming! |
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abufletcher
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 779 Location: Shikoku Japan (for now)
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Where in Japan |
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freebeacher wrote: |
He also said Japan had the LOWEST priced produce and food. |
I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. Overall, I'd say that with careful shopping food expenses here in Shikoku are perhaps 15-20% more than in the US. Some items are actually cheaper, for example chicken and bananas. But overall, things are more expensive here. But not the crazy prices sometimes quoted in the press. Also on the much quoted $15 (and $50) melons, what people who write about this don't realize is that these super expensive fruits are purchased primarily as gifts and that they are really class AAA fruits without a single blemish. Melons in particular are a traditional gift for someone in hospital. People are not buying these melons to have with their Cocoa Puffs in the morning.
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said he made the equivalent of about USD3000. per month. Does that sound accurate? |
Always immediately subtract at least 20% from whatever anyone tells you they earned in Japan! Also be sure to ask how many hours/days a week they had to work to earn their stated salary. USD3000 is not an unbelievable amount for a language school teacher who has built up some privates. But I'd be surprised if this didn't involve teaching 6 days a week. I know private language school guys working well in excess of 60 hours a week. They may be raking in the cash but it's not a life I would care to live either here in Japan or back in the US. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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good luck getting a job in Nagasaki.
I typed Nagoya since it is the 4th largest city in Japan and it is doing well. Toyota is making money, as are their suppliers.
The economy in the Nagoya area is doing well, so there is money for people to learn English.
Nagoya is kind of big and ugly but some people like it since it isn`t far from Gifu. In Gifu you can ski and hike.
In Japan the money is in the Tokyo area and Nagoya.
It is just easier to get a job in Nagoya than in Kyushu.
But if you can get a good job in Kyushu, go for it.
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Nismo

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 520
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:02 am Post subject: |
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From a local supermarket in a small city:
$2-$4 apples, count: one.
$10 insultingly small watermelons.
Then there is the whole beef problem.
Eikaiwa will pay you between �250,000 - �280,000 depending on the company and your qualifications. You can string together private students if you want, but it's all a balancing act between time and money. The base salary, for me, is enough to have a wonderful life and still save �100,000 per month. I value time over money, so perhaps I'm a rare case.
Good luck trying to pick your own area to live in. It's a company market - they have many willing would-be teachers to pick from, and you can only get hired where there is work. A job anywhere in Kyushu will be difficult to land, especially in Fukuoka which is loaded down with foreigners when you look at the ratio to the total population (despite what an earlier poster said). Nagoya is looking to make it big, and you might find the most opportunities there, if anywhere. |
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