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richie122



Joined: 15 Nov 2004
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Location: Seattle, Wa, USA

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Getting to china Reply with quote

Hey Everyone,
I'm going to fly from America to Thailand soon. After my vacation I want to travel to China. I don't have the money to fly though. I am led to beleive that Laos has no railway system. So my question is there a train from Bangkok straight to Kumming, China? If so I would like the information on where to book tickets... If not... Any suggestions would be well appreciated. Thanks to all
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no rail link, that I know of, but you could go by train all the way to Nong Khai on the border with Laos. Then, you could work your way north by bus, via Laos, to Yunnan Province, in China, and beyond. China has a well developed system of rail passenger service.
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legaleagle



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: options Reply with quote

If you are looking to get there on the cheap, you might also take the $8ish bus from BKK to Cambodia and then the $4ish bus to Saigon and then the $25ish bus to Hanoi and then you could pick up the train into China. There would be about $50 in visas also, and some overnights but if you've got the time it would be a memorable trip.
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Travel Zen



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking 12 - hour buses in Asia would be memorable ... but not always good.

Take the plane and save yourself a gagging grungy slow death.
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with previous poster, buses could be a drag, but both Thailand and China have sleeper buses, if you don't mind missing the scenery.
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sojourner



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richie,

Getting to China, from Bangkok, isn't that expensive - or even that inconvenient. If you merely want to save money, there is no need to take tiring, long-distance bus journeys through Thailand, Cambodia, Laos Vietnam - and China, itself - in order to reach your ultimate destination. Have you ever heard of a no-frills airline called AirAsia ? Check it out : http://www.airasia.com/general.php?p=pmain&l=en

Bookings and payments are made over the Internet. AirAsia have fares as low as 2850 Baht - about 95 AUD / CAD, or 70 USD - for Bangkok to Macua flights. From Macua airport, it'll be a short bus or taxi ride to the border, then make your way to the nearest large town, where there should be a long-distance bus station or railway station. Once you're inside Guandong, I'd imagine that it shouldn't be too difficult to find a way to get to Kunming. However, as I am not very familiar with southern Guandong, maybe someone else might want to comment on the bus and train services to Kunming.

Peter
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting approach, Sojourner, and the train service, once he gets into China, is good, including service to Kunming.
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richie122



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot everyone. I think i'll take sojourner method. I'm not worried about the time on a bus, it seems that it would end up being more expensive taking trains and busses. Once again, thanks a bunch
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Sgt Killjoy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, take the bus to Chiang Rai and you can get from Chiang Rai to southern China by either bus or boat or a combination of both. Know of several people who have made the joruney and it wasn't difficult at all. Figure a day from Chiang Rai to China.
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt, was that going through Burma? or Laos? My understanding is that China will only allow Burmese to cross their shared border and that, only for day trading.
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wix



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt Killjoy wrote:
Well, take the bus to Chiang Rai and you can get from Chiang Rai to southern China by either bus or boat or a combination of both. Know of several people who have made the joruney and it wasn't difficult at all. Figure a day from Chiang Rai to China.


Via Chiang Rai is probably the best way to go, but it will take more than a day to get to China from there.

From Chiang Rai go to Chiang Khong, two hours by bus. You could also get a direct bus to Chiang Khong from Bangkok. From Chiang Khong cross the Mekong River to Huay Xai in Laos. From there you can get to Luang Namtha via road or river. This will take a day. From Luang Namtha it will take a few hours to get to the Chinese border.
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From Luang Namtha it will take a few hours to get to the Chinese border.

...and from the Chinese border, another two days to get to Kunming.

Good thing the OP has decided to fly!
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Sgt Killjoy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah and sometimes some of us post for others to have information. Sometimes people like to take the adventure route......
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