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jstopa
Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:01 am Post subject: Top English, Lublin, Poland... Any info? |
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Hi there,
I have the opportunity to go to Lublin to teach english. I am very excited to go but I know very little about Poland. I am especially interested to find out if anyone has taught with 'Top English' there and what the conditions were like.
I am also curious about the average cost of living in Lublin, like how much a beer, cup of coffee, busses, etc. cost.
Any info at all would be appreciated.
Thanks a lot for your time.
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gregoryfromcali

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1207 Location: People's Republic of Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Lublin is good.
It's a university town. It's in the East so it is also lot more conservative than other Polish towns.
I think the old town with it's cobble stone streets is one of the most beautiful in Poland, but it is relatively small so it's unknown outside of Poland.
Unfortunately unemployment is very high and as a result there isn't necessarily a whole lot happening but it would be an interesting place to spend some time.
Not to mention the cost of living is lower there and it's easy to take a train to Warsaw if you need a change for your weekends.
Also it is close to the Ukraine so you can always see the other half of Poland that Stalin took as well as the Ukraine.
I would take a job in Lublin. In fact I had wanted to move there from Cracow but I couldn't find work there, since there are not a whole lot schools there, so I lost my chance to move to Lublin and a beautiful lady I knew there.
Such is life. |
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jstopa
Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: Whatabout Kracow? |
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I've heard a lot of people say that Kracow is the place to be in Poland or even gone so far as to say it is 'the last undiscovered gem,' or something to that effect. What are your thoughts on that?
I would like to go to a place that has some kind of night life. Is Lublin TOO quite?
Thanks,
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vuloshin
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 23 Location: Buffalo, NY USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Top English, Lublin, Poland... Any info? |
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[quote="jstopa"]Hi there,
I have the opportunity to go to Lublin to teach english. I am very excited to go but I know very little about Poland. I am especially interested to find out if anyone has taught with 'Top English' there and what the conditions were like.
I am also curious about the average cost of living in Lublin, like how much a beer, cup of coffee, busses, etc. cost.
Any info at all would be appreciated.
Thanks a lot for your time.
jstopa[/quote]
Lublin is one of the nicest cities in Poland. I loved it there when I taught. The cost of living is a lot less than in Warsaw for example. A beer cost between 3.5 and 5 zloty. Coffee is around 2.50-3.50 zloty. (In restaurant's and bars I assume you mean). Busses are great and cheap. You'll be able to get anywhere from the centre of the city(where Top is located). Apartments are around 800 zloty/month and stancja's are about 400/month (a cheaper and funner way to go than an apartment).
What I know about Top English School is that they're a Callan Method school. They are one of the biggest language schools in Lublin. They are located in the centre of the city close to all the bars and night clubs. They probably are one of the top paying schools in Lublin also becasue they have so many students. I have a friend who once learned English there and another friend who is considering taking a class there in January.
The night-life in Lublin is awesome. Don't listen to what anyone says. My favorite place is this night club called M.C.
I'm just curious how did you get the job at Top? How much are they paying you? Are they paying to get you a work permit and all that stuff or can you work legally in Poland already.
I just got my Polish passport and can't wait to go back to Lublin and teach next year. |
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gregoryfromcali

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1207 Location: People's Republic of Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| I've heard a lot of people say that Kracow is the place to be in Poland or even gone so far as to say it is 'the last undiscovered gem,' or something to that effect. What are your thoughts on that? |
Cracow is an amazing place.
When I moved there 3 years ago it was still slightly undiscovered but it has changed a lot since then, yet it's still far from being as tourists infested as Prague.
But on the other hand I have no problem being around expats. In fact the more expats a city has the easier it is to find things like tortillas, magazines and DVDs from home.
The only drawback is that it's tougher to learn the native language when you're surrounded by expats because a lot of people there will know English. This is also true in Cracow, more and more people there know English.
Where as in Lublin you'll find people who speak English but not as many as in Cracow therefore you're more than likely to learn Polish.
So it depends what you're looking for.
On the other hand I wouldn't take that job in Lublin due to it being a Callan school. You can read more about that debate on this thread http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=30963
In Cracow there are a lot of schools but with the sudden number of expats now living there it may be tough to find a job unless you arrive in September and start applying for work.
But if you have some money saved up you should be able to fly to Poland and find some work somewhere without taking a job over the net.
Just be aware that you will have a few headaches ahead of you concerning immigration. http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=30648 |
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jstopa
Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi again,
Thanks for all of the info on Lublin. It sounds like a very cool city to live in, and not too far from Warsaw and Kracow to visit.
I don't actually have the job yet, but a close friend is already working there and said that he is on very good terms with the director of the school so he said it would be no problem to get me a job as well. I have always hated those people who have 'ins' for jobs, but now that I am one of them I guess I have to re-think my wholw philosophy on life!! How disillusioning...
I haven't spoken to the director myself yet, but he tells me he makes like 2300 zloty/month. Plus any private turoring on the side. Does that seem like a decent wage? Also, what is a stancja? A shared house perhaps?
I hope to hear from you all soon...
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vuloshin
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 23 Location: Buffalo, NY USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I think 2300 zl/month would be more than enough. Gosh, I wish I made that much when I was working there. You probably won't find a higher paying school in Lublin. As far as private tutoring on the side, find out how to post an ad in the Anonse newspaper or my favorite newspaper "Fart" (yes, that's what one of the newspaper's names with only classified sections in it). I can help you if you want posting an ad on the anonse.pl website.
A stancja is a shared house. It's cheap and fun becuase you get to interact with university students. You get your own room and share the bathroom/s and kitchen. Apartments could get lonely and are expensive (if your not making 2300 PLN/month).
I would read the stuff about the Callan method before accepting the job. Some love it, some hate it. I never taught it but observed it a few times and it seemed pretty cool and easy to teach (not much time spent preparing!)
Lublin rules!
Krakow is overrated from what my cousin and friends tell me (I've never been there) |
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gregoryfromcali

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1207 Location: People's Republic of Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Krakow is overrated from what my cousin and friends tell me (I've never been there) |
I like the "I've never been there."
Despite what your counsins and friends say Cracow is and always will be the most beautiful city in Poland.
And as far as Polish history and culture you won't find anything as historically important as Cracow or a bigger center for Polish culture.
But on the flip side Cracowians are very proud and do look down at the rest of Poland which creates a lot of resentment. Which I believe is what your Polish friends may have been referring to.
Anyway, everyone has their owns opinions. But I'd recommend coming to Cracow before you shoot it down.
By the way a lot of bars in Cracow don't close until the last persons leaves. Which I haven't seen anywhere else, although I'm sure there are other places that do that too.
Also Cracow is a good place to catch trains to the Czech Republic, Hungary, Ukraine and Slovakia. |
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Alex Shulgin
Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 553
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| gregoryfromcali wrote: |
Despite what your counsins and friends say Cracow is and always will be the most beautiful city in Poland.
Anyway, everyone has their owns opinions. But I'd recommend coming to Cracow before you shoot it down.
By the way a lot of bars in Cracow don't close until the last persons leaves. Which I haven't seen anywhere else, although I'm sure there are other places that do that too. |
The problem with Krakow is that it is a nice place to live and schools seem to think that they can include that fact in your pay packet. For some reason my Krakow landlord didn't accept my "It's a really nice city so you should charge me less rent" argument.
The other problem is that the supply of teachers is much higher than in any other Polish city. That keeps the wages down and means school owners can treat their teachers badly because there will be a few CVs coming in every week to replace any staff who refuse to assume the position.
And because it is a tourist centre prices are nearly as high as Warsaw!
Krakow is a great place to visit but you're better off not living there. |
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