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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: Passport Changes for US Citizens |
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A little reminder to Americans...as of Dec. 31st, 2006, you need a passport if going to Mexico, Canada, or anywhere in the Western hemisphere. This isn't to enter western hemisphere countries, but to go back home. This only applies to returning to a US air or sea port, and not yet overland. Starting Dec. 31st 2007, all ports or methods of entry will require you to have a passport returning home.
Which means, strangely enough, for 2007, it will be easier for Canadians to enter the US than for Americans to do so.
Unless...someone has heard of a recent update or change to these rules? I culled it all from the Washington Post, the DHS website, and CNN. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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A Continental airline employee told me just last night that it has been extended until January 23, 2007. They advise people to get onto getting passports immediately because the passport offices are swamped, hence the extension!
Here is a travelnews link:
http://www.traveltrade.com/headline_news.jsp?articleID=8133 |
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elaina
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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The passport office by my office is packed. They were telling me that the average wait time to see an agent is between 4-6 hours. The worst part, is that most of the people who are applying, don't have the right paperwork. This means they wait, see an agent, leave to get the right stuff and then come back and get to the front of the line. On the passport canada website, it says that Jan 23 is the latest |
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gordogringo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 159 Location: Tijuana
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Currently the passport requirement for returning from the border areas of Mexico is delayed till 2008. A group of border lobbyists with deep pockets made this possible. They are also working on a temporary card system for US Citizens so they will not be discouraged from going to Baja California.In truth the border folks are just killing time.Once Bush is out of office everything from the stupid wall to this idiotic idea will crash and it will be business as usual. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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elaina wrote: |
They were telling me that the average wait time to see an agent is between 4-6 hours. The worst part, is that most of the people who are applying, don't have the right paperwork. This means they wait, see an agent, leave to get the right stuff and then come back and get to the front of the line. |
Good training for any of them who plan to spend much time in Mexico. |
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mapache

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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really - I would gladly trade this for the Mexican immigration procedure to get or renew a FM-3 that usually takes 8 return trips (albeit the line wait is ususally only 2-3 hours per trip). |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, this last time I renewed I was mildly surprised because it took only two visits: one to drop off the documents and another to pick everything up! Only one other person was ahead of me, so it took a grand total of 15 minutes. The bus ride to the office took more time!  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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gordogringo wrote: |
Currently the passport requirement for returning from the border areas of Mexico is delayed till 2008. A group of border lobbyists with deep pockets made this possible. They are also working on a temporary card system for US Citizens so they will not be discouraged from going to Baja California.In truth the border folks are just killing time.Once Bush is out of office everything from the stupid wall to this idiotic idea will crash and it will be business as usual. |
Similar talk for the Canadian border...there is just too much business being done across that frontier to clamp it down with passports. |
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gordogringo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 159 Location: Tijuana
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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The border trade is huge. For sure. And the US passport office could never handle the volume of applicants if everybody was scrambling for a passport. About 10% of the US has a passport. Can you imagine if 20 more percent went scrambling for one all at once? They could never handle it. And about 30% of the US population will cross the border in 2007.
Our mayor in Tijuana, Jorge Hank, is leading the battle to bring business back to Tijuana and has made a few trips to DC to block the passport issue. Of course he will not admit that the reason business is down is he let his drug trafficing relatives stage shootouts with the police in the heart of the tourist area.Was so bad for awhile Navy personnel were banned from Tijuana by thier superiors afraid for thier safety. And with a huge navy port 20 min. away that hurt. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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gordogringo wrote: |
And about 30% of the US population will cross the border in 2007. |
Three out of every ten people living in the U.S. will visit somewhere outside of the U.S. during the year 2007? That seems like an awfully high estimate to me. Where did those figures come from? |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: |
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You didn't see The Day After Tomorrow?  |
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MikeySaid

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: Torreon, Mexico
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Ben Round de Bloc wrote: |
gordogringo wrote: |
And about 30% of the US population will cross the border in 2007. |
Three out of every ten people living in the U.S. will visit somewhere outside of the U.S. during the year 2007? That seems like an awfully high estimate to me. Where did those figures come from? |
I'd believe that 90 million trips out of the US will be made by US legal residents (some of us account for a chunk of it)... but that 3 out of 10 americans will travel abroad... I find hard to believe. |
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gordogringo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 159 Location: Tijuana
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: |
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When you think travelers you think people on vacation. Specifically to travel to Mexico. The vast majority of tourism to TJ is day trippers and the surfing crowd for Rosarito and Ensenada. San Diegans and even the LA crowd consider Tijuana an extension of California and go there frequently.Juarez and Mexicali are also increasingly busy. 90 million trips is an awfully easy number to get. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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gordogringo wrote: |
When you think travelers you think people on vacation. Specifically to travel to Mexico. |
No, I don't. Maybe you do, living where you do, but I don't. |
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business2300
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 60
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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A concerned family member contacted me a few days ago alerting me... she said that the passport requirement was to go into effect at the end of January.. |
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