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lastmanineurope · Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 22 Location: HK

I have seen some job offers for teaching at a university in Chiang Mai. The job requires a MA (I have a MA Applied Linguistics (TESOL) from the UK - I am English) and a CELTA. So I have these, plus I have ten years experience.

What do you think the salary is likely to be working at a university in Chiang Mai?

What kind of lifestyle could one expect? Would it be significantly better than an English teacher in a decent private language school?

Thanks

Kent F. Kruhoeffer · Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国

^ Hi

Rule #1

If they don't post the offered salary in their advert, it's usually low. Laughing

frankly speaking · Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 54

frankly speaking · Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 54

I believe that was at Payap University. It is a private university and the salary was around 25,000 baht a month. If you read the ad it said a minimum of Matesol, PHD was prefered. You are not teaching normal EFL classes, the position is to teach the MATESOL program. So if you only have a bachelor's degree how do you think you are qualified to teach Master's students?

I do know that for their General English programs a Bachelor's degree (TESOL, Linguistics or English majors) is all that they require for fulltime. Unfortunately, those positions are filled until next term.

Part-time make around 250-300 baht an hour.

lastmanineurope · Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 22 Location: HK

I specifically said I do have a MA Applied Linguistics with TESOL. Nowhere did I say I only have a BA. I have a MA, a BA and a CELTA.

frankly speaking · Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 54

Sorry, I quickly skimmed your qualifications. With all of your qualifications, what are you doing asking newbie questions. If you have 10 years experience, you should not need assistance from web Zeros.

lastmanineurope · Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 22 Location: HK

Thanks for your advice. A life time of experience could not inform one of the conditions of every teaching situation or environment. My experience comes from teaching around Europe, not Asia.

JosephP · Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 445

joe beets · Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 37

sojourner · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:26 am Post subject:

25 K. Baht per month ? It works out at around 830 AUD. Does one also receive that salary during vacation times ? How many actual teaching hours are required in order to earn that sort of money ? At a university in Zhejiang Province, China, I'm getting 5.5 K. RMB per month (12 payments), about 940 AUD. My "teaching" hours are only 16 per week, or 12 "normal" hours. I'm also provided with a rent-free flat, free utilities, and air-fare reimbursement. There are also ample opportunities for o/t, or moonlighting. With Thai unis, is one provided with a rent-free flat ? Also, are air-fares reimbursed ? I've been told that Thai language schools don't provide housing or air-fare reimbursement - but what about the uni sector ?

Of course, salaries, etc, should not be the only factors when considering a country to work in. For many people, Thai culture is far more appealing than what the Chinese have to offer. I, personally, prefer Thailand to China - I'll be there, for sure, during the Spring Festival month's vacation ! I would certainly consider a uni job there if the remuneration package even remotely resembled what I'm currently getting. However, much that I love Thailand, at this stage in my life I need to consider the salary, perks, etc.

If a person has no particular interest in Thai culture, but merely wants an "Asian Experience" - and, at the same time, to save some reasonable money, without having to work that hard ! - China should be considered.

Peter

JosephP · Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 445

Kent F. Kruhoeffer · Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国

^ Yep.

It's like that here.

The people in Thailand making good money are:

a) those who arrange & maintain their own privates -

meaning they 'net' the full hourly rate, instead of

splitting it 50/50 with an agency or school

b) those who 'top up' their base salaries with privates -

and end up teaching on weekends & evenings

c) those who are qualified and certified

to teach in real international schools

d) those who run their own businesses

e) and those who sell their bodies in the night

Most everybody else gets by on 25 to 45K per month

and / or pulls your leg about what they really earn.

Don't forget that supply and demand plays a major role in this reality.

Show me a fun town with a sandy white beach or beautiful scenery,

and I'll show you an oversupply of TEFLers with and without quals -

who ensure that the salaries remain exactly where they are.

I'm not

.

To repeat what joe beets said -

that's just the way it is.

Albulbul · Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 364

Now I see why Saudi Arabia is full of people who USED to work in Thailand !

Kent F. Kruhoeffer · Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国

^ Inshallah, Albulbul. Long time no post !

If I could just get over my fear of decapitation ...

Actually, it cuts both ways, ya know.

There are plenty of former Saudi teachers

here in Thailand enjoying life's little pleasures,

including but not limited to

and

.

I suspect the ideal life would be 6 months

in Saudi followed by 6 months in Thailand.

These are my islands. Get out.