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msimard
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: Canadian who wants to teach in China |
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Hi. Im new to this forum and I would like to know what is the first thing to do if I want to teach in Cina. I speak french as a first language and a pretty good english which I would say would be good enough to teach kids. Im 43 and I have a college diploma in communication. Do I really need a tesol diploma or do i have enough competence with my background. Thanks in advance to all of you who are going to help me. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Mais quel serais le sujet que tu voudrais enseigner? Et sur quel niveau? |
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vikdk
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:02 am Post subject: |
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tu es un bon garcon, roger - c'etait un bon message - tu as du bien apprendre de l'oncle Vik |
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msimard
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Id�alement j'aimerais enseigner le fran�ais mais je ne sais si c'est possible. Je connais quelqu'un avec qui je n'ai pas l'occasion de parler souvent qui a enseign� l'anglais et il m'a dit que c'est pas n�cesssaire d'�tre parfaitement bilingue pour �tre embauch�. Je serais int�ress� � enseigner l'anglais de base � des jeunes enfants. Merci d'avoir r�pondu.
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Mais quel serais le sujet que tu voudrais enseigner? Et sur quel niveau? |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:09 am Post subject: |
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干啥写法文?在这儿每个人都会法语吗?
Since this is a forum about TEFL in China why not write in English? |
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msimard
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:21 am Post subject: |
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OK. We were exchanging in french. I guess that someone has to go back to their roots once in a while. Sorry about that if it frustrated you.
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干啥写法文?在这儿每个人都会法语吗?
Since this is a forum about TEFL in China why not write in English? |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1022 Location: Australia, previously China
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Ok, many of us could work the forum in Pinyin, some even in Hanzi. To prove what? The OP asked about teaching English in English.
Msimard, just let prospective employers know you are from an English speaking country and include a photo. If you've got a degree and confidence in yourself as a teacher, that should be enough.
Teaching kids is tough work though. |
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msimard
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Is a college diploma is enough to get a job as an english teacher? Thanks.
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Ok, many of us could work the forum in Pinyin, some even in Hanzi. To prove what? The OP asked about teaching English in English.
Msimard, just let prospective employers know you are from an English speaking country and include a photo. If you've got a degree and confidence in yourself as a teacher, that should be enough.
Teaching kids is tough work though. |
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Babala

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: |
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To the OP,
How strong is your accent? I know some French-Canadian accents can be very heavy. |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:01 am Post subject: |
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msimard wrote: |
Is a college diploma is enough to get a job as an english teacher? Thanks. |
The bottom line is whether the employer can get you the necessary documents (invitation letter, work permit, and the visa notice) so you can get your Z visa at your local Chinese consulate. To be able to teach legally at a Chinese college/university (not sure about middle school), more and more provincial Public Security Bureaus (the police station) now ENFORCE the SAFEA regulation of having a bachelor's degree (some will accept a TESOL/CELTA as substitute).
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How strong is your accent? I know some French-Canadian accents can be very heavy. |
I think most Chinese employers are only concerned with the fact that the OP is from an native English-speaking country. I knew of an old man in Qingdao who was born and raised in Montreal, later moving to Vancouver before coming to China. He had a noticeable French accent but he was hot commodity in Qingdao as he'd been working there for years. |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1022 Location: Australia, previously China
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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True. Most employers can't differentiate between native - or near native - speaker's accents.
Just tell them you're a Canuck and go for gold.
A diploma, on nice parchment, will do the trick. |
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Roger
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt you will be totally happy with jobs available for English teachers at primary and secondary school levels - you won't be teaching ENGLISH but so-called "oral English" to classrooms full to their rafters with noisy and occasionally ill-bred kids: think of 60 kids and more per class, with you trying to make them speak when they profess to not understanding YOU because you DON'T SPEAK LOUDLY enough or because YOU HAVE an "ACCENT"... It can be traumatising! IT can be otherwise too - but nothing is granted in this business!
THe majority of newbies go for adult training centres - not exactly ideal but possibly a lot better, especially if your students are self-paying adults.
Personally I consider kindergartens the best employers - short working hours (a period has 20 to 30 minutes), and you are relatively free in how you do your job although parents have unreasonable expectations!
Mais puis-que tu ne t'opposes pas a l'idee d'enseigner le francais, mon avis est que tu serais beaucoup plus a l'aise en l'enseignant!
Le francais s'enseigne a plusieurs universites telles que l'Universite de Dr Sun Yatsen a Canton, the University of Foreign Studies (egalement a Canton), et dans un nombre de grosses villes depuis Pekin a Xi'an.
La raison pourquoi je crois l'enseignement du francais (ou de n'importe quelle langue etrangere autre que l'anglais!) est que ceux qui s'inscrivent pour l'etudier doivent d'abord passer dex examens qui prouvent si quelqu'un est doue pour cette langue alors que l'anglais est une langue mandataire pour tous les eleves!
Il existent aussi des centres de formation linguistique quasi-prive ou gere par une agence officielle telle que l"Academie Francaise qui a des antennes a Canton, Hongkong, Pekin, SHanghai, et peut-eutre ailleurs aussi. |
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msimard
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: Accent |
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I don't have a very big accent. It's only noticeable with certain verbs or words.
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Babala wrote: |
To the OP,
How strong is your accent? I know some French-Canadian accents can be very heavy. |
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