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bcooke
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: arriving mid-semester |
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I'm planning on arriving in China in early-mid April, having obtained TEFL certification in March through a Trinity-sponsored program in Prague, and that will really be my only language and/or teaching related qualification. Will university work starting mid-semester be diffifcult or impossible to find? I do have a degree, but it is a BS in math, which will further limit my options if the lists of required qualifications on the university websites are hard and fast rules (are they, by the way?).
My current strategy is to begin sending out my information to individual schools within the next week or two, stating somewhere in the materials my wish to start in April and my willingness to sign a contract for the following year. All things considered, will this work?
Another thing: I've noticed that a lot of schools provide on-campus housing, and that many of these campuses are islands in themselves located far from city centers. The prospect of being relatively confined day and night to the sterile school grounds isn't thrilling, and I wonder how one would go about independently finding an apartment in a more urban setting and whether or not a school would be willing to make a housing allowance in that event. Any advice? |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: Re: arriving mid-semester |
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bcooke wrote: |
Will university work starting mid-semester be diffifcult or impossible to find? |
Many colleges and universities don't begin looking for new FT's until the beginning of the semester, as they are too busy and/or lazy at the end of the previous term. In many cases, they just simply run out of time in getting their FT's before the school breaks for winter/summer break. Also, many schools find themselves having to find replacement FT's in a hurry because new FT's pull a runner after a week or two, or they are fired because they are troublemakers. In their rush to get a new FT to arrive ASAP, they will often ask the new FT to come with a tourist visa or a F visa. This is fine if the region/province STILL allows the conversion of L visa to Z visa, but that is becoming more and more impossible according to various posts and threads. You will find jobs starting mid-term, but from personal experience, I'd say the school is probably not a very good one (especially with the accomodation).
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I do have a degree, but it is a BS in math, which will further limit my options if the lists of required qualifications on the university websites are hard and fast rules (are they, by the way?). |
Nonsense! A university degree is, as far as most public schools are concerned, enough to get you the Work Permit so you can get your Z visa at the local Chinese consulate/embassy.
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My current strategy is to begin sending out my information to individual schools within the next week or two, stating somewhere in the materials my wish to start in April and my willingness to sign a contract for the following year. All things considered, will this work? |
Well there is a problem: most if not all Chinese colleges and universities are now closed for winter break or will be very soon so your e-mails will probably go unanswered until next month. If I were you, I wouldn't bother with sending out applications until the middle of next month.
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The prospect of being relatively confined day and night to the sterile school grounds isn't thrilling, and I wonder how one would go about independently finding an apartment in a more urban setting and whether or not a school would be willing to make a housing allowance in that event. Any advice? |
Believe me, you DO want to live on-campus. Generally speaking, on-campus living conditions are a lot better than those of living off-campus. You get better furnishings, and problems with water and electricity are taken care of much sooner than if you were living off-campus. Yes, there are colleges and universities that do place their FT's in off-campus apartments and I don't know how well-furnished they are. But you have to take into consideration that on-campus housing are free as far as the school is concerned, i.e. they don't have to pay rent since it is their own property and they don't have to spend any time or money to get you new furnitures, installing hot water tank so you can take a shower, or installing telephone/Internet hookup for you.
[ADDED] Also, I wouldn't consider living on-campus as being confined. Public transportation is always available right by public schools and taxis are always parked outside the school gate waiting to pick up people. So there is a curfew but if you can manage to get the message through to the apartment's attendants, they will either stay up later to unlock the door for you, or leave the door open later should you wish to have a night out with some friends (just don't do it every weekend). Public schools (in their argument) prefer their FT's living on-campus because it is their responsibility for your safety.
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Probably not. Unless someone has pulled a runner and a school is frantically looking for a replacement, odds of landing a job only a couple of months before the end of term may be very difficult for you.
Most schools will (or have) hire for the Spring semester that begins mid to late February. You may have to do some time in a language mill to "tide you over" for this time through the summer. Of course, there will be summer camps in about mid-July, but I would say to prepare for no in-school teaching gigs until September!
(I could be wrong, though) |
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Super Mario
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1022 Location: Australia, previously China
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm planning on arriving in China in early-mid April |
Where?
Look at the private English mills that are always hiring and firing to tide you over. Your visa status could be dodgy: a lot of these don't "do" visas. And you'll probably need to arrange accommodation, so don't come under-financed.
However, this will buy you time to look for a proper job for the following semester. A degree and TEFL holding white native English speaker has no trouble finding a job.
Try the "THat's" online magazines for leads. Here's the Shanghai one:
http://www.thatssh.com/
And here's a job that may interest you:
http://www.thatssh.com/Classifieds/ClassifiedsDetail.aspx?ID=4366
See? It's that easy.
"Proper" jobs do come up due to no-shows and unexpected enrolments. I recruited some last minute replacements - who worked out very well - for my school. You need to scan the websites several times a day.
Alternatively, many of the more rural schools can never find enough FE's. Pay may be low, conditions basic, but the students are just great, and you get more of a taste of the real China [I'm not sure what that is, BTW] than you would in an east coast city.
PM me for some leads/links. No, I'm not a recruiter, just helpful. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Your best chances are with training centres, not schools - if you insist on coming mid-semester. I'ts not totally unlikely a public schools will hire you in March, but just not very, very likely! Their problem would be: the term ends 3 months later, and a work visa for 6 or 12 months would go underutilised throughout the summer holidays during which they would most likely not need you! 3 months is sometimes a wee bit tight for them to get you legal status!
I don't understand this complaining about "living on a sterile campus" so long as you haven't seen it! Do you think living in a downtown highrise makes for genteel living? YOu will be surprised by the low quality of life you have to put up with there! Noise levels guaranteed 24 hours a day, nosey neighbours, and an ever enterprising police and watchman looking how you do in your four walls!
I think living on campus offers serenity and serendipidty sorely missing in most urban parts of China! Plus it's a lot safer too on campus! |
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frank d
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: |
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My two experiences of living on campus were terrible! I will never do it again! The first one offered anything but serenity! People were constantly knocking on my door, arriving at all hours; calling my name from outside the window when I was trying to sleep. My apartment was on the ground floor of a girl's dormatory (I am an older man). The girls were constantly knocking on my gate so they could retrieve fallen bras, panties, and other "girl" things from my "yard." I remained friendly about it all -- but I was miserable! |
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vikdk
Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: |
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hey frank your experiences sound like heaven to an old codger like me  |
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frank d
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, after typing these comments I began to wonder if my circumstances might appear a bit more appealing to some other, old FTs!!! It was not as wonderul as it might sound to you! More annoying than anything else! |
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Midlothian Mapleheart
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 623 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: |
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frank d
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Oh, yeah! Thanks Mapleheart! You reminded me about the screaming between classes, the relentless and ear-splitting distorted wake-up music and early morning rallies! Thanks (but no thanks) for the memories!!!
Yes, when I had a problem in my living quarters (which was often), when it was addressed, it seemed to always require a parade of workers: one to actually fix the problem, and about six others to stare at and discuss the problem. This work "process" usually required 3 days minimum repair time (and they always requested that I be at home to witness the madness). |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: |
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frank d wrote: |
People were constantly knocking on my door, arriving at all hours; calling my name from outside the window when I was trying to sleep. |
I guess my having a non-foreign face has helped a lot thus far in my teaching stints.
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My apartment was on the ground floor of a girl's dormatory (I am an older man). The girls were constantly knocking on my gate so they could retrieve fallen bras, panties, and other "girl" things from my "yard." I remained friendly about it all -- but I was miserable! |
Dang it Frank! I would've made a nice personal collection and then having an end-of-term auction!
Midlothian Mapleheart, I guess I have been quite lucky so far (or being a very patient person) that I haven't had much trouble with heat, etc (except having no water numerous times in this college).
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If you don't like living in a Chinese community with its bustle and activity, why are you here? Life in an academic "Green Zone" won't help you to understand this society very well. |
I don't think one has to be living off-campus to experience Chinese society. One CAN understand Chinese culture while living on-campus. It all depends on how you live your life while in China. |
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