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Jizzo T. Clown



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:43 am    Post subject: Sleeping Students (Grrr...) Reply with quote

I have a few students who always fall asleep in class without fail (they're all Japanese). I've tried almost everything...calling attention to them, asking them why, threatening to send them home, asking them to answer the questions I asked while they were asleep, letting them stay asleep until their class leaves and the next class enters... Evil or Very Mad

Nothing seems to work. This is really frustrating. I tell students that nothing is more disrespectful, as I take this behavior personally. Does anyone have experience with this type of student? Is it a cultural thing?Should I just ignore them and let them fail the course?

What can I do?

(and please avoid taking potshots) Wink
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guangho



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you put them on the spot by waking them up and asking questions or making them do oral exercises? I would imagine that the loss of face may be enough to motivate them next time around.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of school do you teach at, Jizzo? And, where?

I'm in Japan and see sleepers in my high school class constantly. Japanese teachers do little about it, but native teachers usually wake them up.

First, I suggest you contact their parents and/or videotape them.

Of course, you could always try to change your lesson plans to involve more stand-up and move-around activities.

Then, if parents have not effect on the kids, let them sleep and flunk them. They will have wasted their parents' money.
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Stosskraft



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about the age group, but its difficult to put your head down and have a nap with no desk.
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Jizzo T. Clown



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying. I teach in a university intensive prgram in the U.S., so all of my students are 18-19 years old. There's no calling their parents, but I suppose I could go to the Japanese advisor. They don't seem too worried about losing face--they're much more disrespectful than any Japanese students I taught in Japan. Mad
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Why fight it? Reply with quote

If they aren't snoring or disturbing the class in any other way, let them sleep! I think some of this is a kind of delayed-adolescent behavior after years of strict discipline! Right now they know you can't to much. I used to stay in my dorm room and sleep through classes in college. I would guess your students don't have other places to sleep, or the cultural variation might be that they show up at all, rather than skipping class outright.
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Otterman Ollie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Yep got it all the time,not any more . Reply with quote

A few lads used to do it here on a regular basis ,I used to ignore it most of the time the usual excuse was that they were feeling a bit Moby Dick so I let it slide until I found out that they sit up till 4 or 5 in the morning watching mucky vids .
So I wandered over when the head went down and he was bo peep got a bottle of water and dribbled a drop or two on his head ,when he came to I told him the whole bottle would go over him next time .I only had to do it once .
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Joachim



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wake them up and make them stand for the rest of the class, and if they attempt to sit, send them out. Be firm!

or if you're feeling really sadistic, you could make them sing an English song alone - but in Japan I fear you'd just get a flat refusal....
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jizzo T


Quote:
Is it a cultural thing?


Answer: YES, definitely. Very Happy


I taught in Japan for 2 years

and here's what I discovered.


If you ask 10 Japanese students

what their favourite hobbies are,

7 out of 10 will reply, "sleeping".


Pop music, computer & video games,

comic books, Hello Kitty meets Pokemon,

and things involving art & drawing ...

seem to go down well with Japanese kids.

Why not try creating some lesson plans

around these topics?


It might help.


If not, beat them senseless.


You could try this for ideas:

http://www.genkienglish.net/
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Jizzo T. Clown



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kent F. Kruhoeffer wrote:



Pop music, computer & video games,

comic books, Hello Kitty meets Pokemon,

and things involving art & drawing ...

seem to go down well with Japanese kids.

Why not try creating some lesson plans

around these topics?


It might help.


Cheers,

Good ideas, except these topics don't really lend thenselves to English for Academic Purposes (remember these are university students), and my boss just wouldn't understand.
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, OK.


English for Academic Purposes it is.


"Pokemon goes to Harvard, meets Hello Kitty, they fall in love,

& decide to open a new business together, but they need a plan"


Home task:


write a business plan

using these 4 images









Trust me; your boss will love it!
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Cdaniels



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Moby? Reply with quote

I'd love it, but the pulsating "new" is very small Confused
BTW what the hell does "feeling a bit Moby *beep*" mean?
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's BEEPney rhyming slang. "Moby D�ck" rhymes with "Sick."


Justin, the multilingual American
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS- Anybody else know how to get the name of that whale through the auto censor?
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Moby D�ck"
It's easy with a Spanish language keyboard.
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