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Can I write a needs analysis survey for your class?

 
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:37 am    Post subject: Can I write a needs analysis survey for your class? Reply with quote

For my MATESOL program, I need to write a needs analysis instrument and have it administered to a real class. Since I'm planning to teach in Japan at some point, I thought I would see if anyone who's there is interested in having their class take it.

It will include basic demographic questions and probably focus on motivation and usage, since those are topics I'm interested in. But I could certainly include questions on areas you're interested in. Your students need to be able to read English, though I will do my best to tailor the language level of the survey to your students' abilities. (If you REALLY want to do it and your students can't read well yet, I may be able to create a Japanese version.) I know it's close to academic year end there (not as ideal as a first-of-the-year NA) but if you are continuing with the same students, maybe it would still be helpful.

Ideally, I'd make the questions into an online survey so we wouldn't need to mail bits of paper back and forth, but if we do it on paper I could reimburse you for the postage (or maybe send you something you miss that I can buy in the US).

It would NOT be published or presented to anyone except my instructor, and I would give you a copy of whatever I wrote about it. I have to have it done by March 7 (blasted quarter system...).

If you can help me out with this, I would really appreciate it. With luck, you'll benefit from it, too. Please PM me as soon as you can so we can discuss the details. If you want more information first, PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send you the official description of the assignment.

Thank you!
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abufletcher



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far I've taught ESL/EFL in the US, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Mexico, and Japan. People often joke about teaching ENAP in Japan -- English for No Apparent Purpose. But it's all too often the truth.

Japan is also sometimes described as a "quasi-lingual" country where English permiates almost every aspect of the Japanese environment -- yet somehow never really seems to be of any real importance anywhere.

In contrast, in the Arabian Gulf, where up to 85% of the population of some of the countries consists of expatriates, knowing English can be the difference between a good job and a life as a local fisherman. No, I take that back, even the fishermen in Oman often spoke more English (because they NEEDED to speak more English) than many of my university students here in Japan.

I've tried to teach focused ESP courses to groups of archtecture students and engineering students but they just couldn't have been less interested. English is, I think, largely a social language -- or more specifically a language associated with modernity and style. It's fashionable -- not necessarily useful.

So a needs analysis? I suppose that might be interesting if the questions didn't just reinforce myths the Japanese tell themselves about the value of English. Will they need English for travel. Most of my students have never been out of the country. Will they need English for future employment. Unlikely. Will they be needing English to interact with foreigners in Japan. Even less likely. Will they need arcane bits of grammar/translation to pass even more arcane university entrance exams. Probably.

As you state, it's almost the very end of the semester at the university level (this is my last week) and we won't be seeing students again until April.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, my intent wasn't to be snide or dismissive of your query or the assignment. I just hoped that this "view from the ground" might help you design an instrument that generates a really interesting and potentially useful picture.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I understand! It's OK if I can't find anyone in Japan, too; I have a friend whose local class I could probably borrow.

One of the things I want to do in an NA, even if it's not strictly needs related, is ask about students' interests, to possibly find some "hooks" by which the teacher can get their attention. I'd also like to find out if they ever encounter or use English at all outside of class, even if it's just in a computer game or whatever. (That would be a nice set of questions to ask at the beginning and again at the end of a term.)

What sorts of things do *you* think would be good to find out, particularly in these cases where the students are unmotivated/uninterested?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to be careful if you interview a class in a private high school. There may be students in that school on the "escalator" plan to their sister university, as well as students who are not. Those others may be headed towards junior colleges, other universities, or no university/junior college at all. For university-bound kids, what are their majors?

Also, if it is a high school, you need to know if the students came from a public school or the junior high that is attached to the private SHS (or if one even exists).

Returnees vs. all other kids, and the returnees' length of time spent overseas (and to what countries, since some might not have been to English-speaking countries).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wintersweet wrote:
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What sorts of things do *you* think would be good to find out, particularly in these cases where the students are unmotivated/uninterested?


I think you want to be very careful when you do this, is that you dont ask biased or loaded questions. i.e you have a preconceived opinion or a stereotype and the student can not help but respond to that preconception.
e.g

"Why do you think you hate English" is a loaded question.

Its probably a good idea to "pilot" your questions before you send them out to students, as what may be an innocent question to you may send the wrong message to students who speak another language. In that case you may need a Japanese translation of the question and have it checked that the intent or meaning is clear.

I use multichoice questions when asking such questions and then maybe a why/why not at the bottom.


To add to Glenski's post, high school students probably have different levels of motivation (interest is probably a better word) because for the majority English is a more or less compulsory subject in high school and they have to study it whether they want to or not and ultimately pass the entrance exam. People on the escalator know they are going to uni anyway, and may not study as hard.


Some might like English but not particularly need it if they are not going to university.


You might want to ask about intrinsic vs. extrinsic goals e.g.

Why are you studying?

Intrinsic: hobby, I like English, homestay, have foreign pen friend

Extrinsic, pass a test, TOEIC, pass into high school/university etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you consider classes in private language schools or company classes? I think you can get a more interesting group than in a high school or university. Many (not all) students in company classes are studying for a specific reason like for a promotion or to do specific things in English like read and respond to email. Same can apply to private language schools where you may find students who have a very specific reason for studying.

Sherri
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH, yes, of course, lack of bias is a big issue in any needs analysis.

Sherri, yes, I can consider any kind of class.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help feeling that a "needs analysis" s somehow different than a simple list of "why I want to study English." A needs analysis, it seems to me, might be irrespective of student desires, being instead an analysis of the roles played by English in the society the student experiences.

I think the typical use of needs analysis also applies more to groups than single individuals.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To continue this line of thinking, a needs analysis should also point the teacher towards possible areas of English competency that would be "beneficial" to to student -- even if the student him or herself might not express an interest in this directions. For example, a needs analysis done for a group of foreign students in an American graduate school might reveal a need for more academic reading strategies or a better command of group discussion skills, neither of which a student would be likely to suggest as a "reason" they want to study "English."

In fact, one could argue that a "needs analysis" questionnaire might be as usefully directed at people in the workplace and/or social environment rather than only to students. In short, we're talking about "needs" not just "desires."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful Abu, your PhD is showing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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