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comenius

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 124 Location: San Francisco, California, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: Textbook recommendations? |
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I'm curious what the current standard, multi-level textbook series are. Back when I was a teaching--a few years back--I remember using the Headway series a lot. Is that one still popular? Which other ones are commonly used?
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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:30 am Post subject: |
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headway - new series is big here in syria. whether one wishes to debate how 'good' it is compared to others, thats something completely different. but it is used massively here. personally, i feel it 'does the job' adequately.
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've never seen a textbook that I was happy with. Last year my school was using English File, which I absolutely hated. I followed the program outline at the front of the book with my own materials and supplementary items from various texts and the internet.
This year the school has changed over to New Interchange. I find it somewhat more useful, mainly because it has a lot more material in it to pick and choose from - but I still only use perhap one-third of what's in the text.
If you have a choice, I'd recommend you take a look at whatever is available to you and choose the text you hate the least, and be prepared to add material from other sources. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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New Interchange has been leading the way in Latin America for some time now, as far as I've been seeing. Cambridge pushes it pretty hard here with slick book launches. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have received more free stuff from new interchange than from ANYBODY! They really push the series...
But I still don't really care for Cambridge's version of "American English."
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I hate the way most texts assume one flavour of English or another. When I worked for EF, the inhouse texts we used for general English were not bad - but what I really liked was that rather than preferring one flavour, the books made use of all flavours of English. The listenings, the readings, etc. used accents and usages from many different countries, and not just the US or UK, but Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, etc.
Too bad other texts can't be as cosmopolitan. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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For general English programs I use Cutting Edge(Longman) I find it more user friendly than most course books. |
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comenius

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 124 Location: San Francisco, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Lots of names I recognize. I'm glad things haven't totally changed in the few years since I've been actively teaching. Thanks for the tips!  |
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Deconstructor

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 775 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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If a book burning should ever take place, it should consist of nothing but all the ESL/EFL books ever produced in the past 100 years.
I can't imagine a better way to restore the health and dignity of the English language.
As for the authors of these texts, of course we should be fair by lining all of them up against the wall and shooting them followed by a good old fashioned pissing on the corpses.
I put together my own materials, which consist of interesting articles and audios recorded from talk radio. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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and audios recorded from talk radio |
Knowing you Decon, that would be pure Howard Stern.
Welcome back buddy. Care to update us? |
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Deconstructor

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 775 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
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and audios recorded from talk radio |
Knowing you Decon, that would be pure Howard Stern.
Welcome back buddy. Care to update us? |
Man you know me so well.
Well, old friend, t's nice to be back. I was absent to become a daddy as you know, which proves the profound absurdity of this universe! It was difficult to choose between Dave and fatherhood, but I'm sure Dave understands!
Just so that I don't hijack this thread: To hell with ESL/EFL books!!! Have you ever heard of AMERICAN INSIDE OUT or MOVE UP? What garbage!!!!!! |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Deconstructor wrote: |
I put together my own materials, which consist of interesting articles and audios recorded from talk radio. |
I agree: most TEFL/TESL textbooks are terrible. Unfortunately, I, like most TEFL instructors, am simply too darn lazy to bother going to that much effort.
Okay, I'm off to the beach now.... |
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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:08 am Post subject: |
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If a book burning should ever take place, it should consist of nothing but all the ESL/EFL books ever produced in the past 100 years.
I can't imagine a better way to restore the health and dignity of the English language.
As for the authors of these texts, of course we should be fair by lining all of them up against the wall and shooting them followed by a good old fashioned pissing on the corpses. |
This is all very interesting but perhaps a few supporting facts might be in order. Could you give some reasons for completely discarding a textbook ?
Thnx
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guangho

Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 476 Location: in transit
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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I once worked with a series of books called GoGo. GoGo is a red dinosaur that manages to get into all sorts of wacky, gratuitously misspelled adventures, which lead to the characters exclaiming in charming exasperation "Oh Gogo!" The books had no structure to them whatsoever.
If they were to be turned into movies, the script would be something like this:
Andy: Boy, it is sunny torday!
Eric: I want a baskeball bat!
Sara: Hey there is a migook! Let's pulls his armhair!
Gogo tries to pull on the armhair and winds up tearing the entire limb off
Andy+Eric+Sarah: Oh Gogo! |
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jr1965
Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 175
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that a lot of ELT texts are pretty awful (I'd include New Interchange in that category, btw), but I do think having a course text is useful for students and instructors. I mean, if you're teaching a conversation class, OK, maybe you don't need a textbook. On the other hand, a teacher in this situation will need to design all his/her own materials based on whatever the course objectives are.
But what if you're teaching a speaking/listening course in an intensive program, and the goal is to develop certain skills and competencies that go beyond using English recreationally just to talk to others? Then I really think it is helpful to have a good text in place, especially for students. Ditto if you're teaching reading and writing. I'm not saying that a teacher should rely exclusively on the text, but I do think that texts are important (just think back to courses you took in college... I don't know what I would've done in some classes if I hadn't had a text to refer to following a class meeting or lecture).
Of course, the challenge is finding a good textbook to use in a lot English classes, and the trouble in many places is that teachers in certain settings don't always have a lot of input as far as this goes. Texts are assigned.
My two centimos.
JR
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