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erinyes
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 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: Wenzhou government school � not allowed to live off campus?? |
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Hi, we are applying for a position in Wenzhou (Zhejiang province) at a government middle school. We have spoken to the FAO many times and asked if it�s possible to live off campus instead of on campus because on campus the accommodation has no kitchen.
He tells us that it�s impossible in Wenzhou because the local government has made it law; if you work for a government school in Wenzhou, you must live on campus.
Is he pulling our leg? Does anyone know the number of the foreign experts office in Wenzhou so I can check this piece of information. |
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Voldermort
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I came across a similar problem to this a while back when I was teaching in Qinhuangdao. I found the problem had nothing to do with the law, infact there were other foreign teachers working for other schools in the city happily living in their high street appartment. It was the schools interpretation of the law. IE the school is responsible for the foreign teacher on and off campus 24/7.
I had little luck changing this, but then I only stayed there for 4 months. After that experience I have refused to live any any 'free' school provided accomodation. I now ask for a rent allowance up front and go rent my own place. |
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erinyes
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| Why? What sort of problems did you have living on Campus? I really don't like the idea of the school thinking they need to watch out for us 24/7. |
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Babala
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Location: Henan
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| I would not live on campus again. Many schools like to enforce a curfew (usually about 10pm). They tend to be noisy (like when they wake the kids up at 6am they play music over the PA). They are usually rules about guests (we weren't even supposed to have visiting family spend the night). I agree with the other poster, I doubt it is a law, just the school's preference. Also watch out for teachers or students who just like dropping by. |
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KES
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Run away.
In my view, any school that won't provide private, off-campus living quarters with unrestricted access is not worth teaching at.
Unless you like living in a lock down environment.
Don't accept excuses. It certianly can be done.
Funny how laws become absolute when it's convenient. |
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Voldermort
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| erinyes wrote: |
| Why? What sort of problems did you have living on Campus? I really don't like the idea of the school thinking they need to watch out for us 24/7. |
The school tended to be very strict about what I was doing, when I was doing it and who I was doing it with. They wanted me to go shopping with another teacher, I was not allowd to visit bars and such. Life there was generaly miserable.
On one occasion, half way through the winter holiday, there were only 3 people in the whole school campus, me, another foreigner and the gate man. We decided to go out and celebrate at the local disco, naturaly we came back in the early hours. This resulted in us being grounded to campus for a week, and from then on we were restricted to a strict 9:00pm curfew in addition to having to sign at the gate everytime we wanted to leave campus.
The other restrictions we had included having no visitors, not being able to leave the city and having a teacher present to make sure we wiped our backsides properly. We were treated worse than the students, and as most of you know they get a rough deal as it is.
Also living on campus comes with those little extras like the school monitoring your internet connection, all the ESL sites and job boards were blocked (good job I know how to use a proxy); and not to mention the school thinking they can summon your presence with the click of their fingers.
NEVER AGAIN!!!
Please note, this is just one instance with Qinhuangdao New Century High School in Qinhuangdao Hebei province. I have met foreign teachers in the past who have had no such problems living on campus, and my school here in Panzhihua does not intefere at all with the teachers outside of our schedule, on campus or off. |
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vikdk
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| you actually agreed to those sanctions - how on earth could you let them do those things ??????????????????????????????????????????? |
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Roger
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