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mgee



Joined: 16 Nov 2004
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Location: liverpool

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:32 pm    Post subject: 2800 per month Reply with quote

OK so I've accepted the offer from Angloschool in Warsaw. The money is 2800 zloty per month after tax and there's free accomodation - is this enough to survive??

Also, on what I consider to be very little knowledge of Poland, I'm flying out to start on Tuesday - in other words help! What are the most essential things for me to bear in mind as I ready myself for a winter wonderland (apparantly Warsaw had its first snow of winter today)?

As ever any guidance/help/info is gratefully recieved...
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dragulescu



Joined: 19 Nov 2004
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Location: N.Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: New job! Reply with quote

Congrats! i really hope u have a good experience, unfotunately i am still at uni, i hope to go to Poland to teach english in the next few years, and hopefully stay there.i cannot advise you on the teaching aspect or anything about the school, but i CAN recommend Poland, it is a fab country, i have been mostly in the south of the country, only Warsaw briefly, the Polish people are warm and helpful behind those often miserable faces. try Okocim beer, it is lovely. You will adore the food, especially kielbasa, kabanos, bigos and wonderful home-cooked cakes. in the summer you should find a special brand of tomatoes called malinowa, i think, they melt in your mouth. Please be careful in warsaw central station. Men will find the women attractive, some are too skinny though and they are known to be gold-diggers. Unfortunately for us girls, the men are not attractive, how does that happen??? they are very thin and not my cup of tea, facially. Anyway, go to the south if you can afford it! see krakow, wroclaw (west) and my favourite place, ZAKOPANE, mountain resort, excellent in the winter and adorable in the summer, try the smoked cheese! and the highland tea Laughing hope this is of some use. yes, there has been lots of snow, great! i look forward to hearing how you get on!!! dobranoc, czesc! ( i can't put Polish accents on the letters!)[/quote]
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Alex Shulgin



Joined: 20 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2800 net plus appartment is a bit on the low side as far as market rate for teachers goes. The normal rate is about 50PLN gross per 45 minutes, so that's a net of either 42PLN or 45PLN depending on which tax model your employer uses. Assuming you work about 20 hours a week you're looking at around 5000PLN after tax. Sorry but 2200 for the flat is way too much. Decentish two room flats in the centre start at 1200PLN a month if you have the flat to yourself (which I doubt Angloschool do).

On the plus side: you'll be able to live reasonably well on 2800PLN a month.
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JZer



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Location: Pittsburgh

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to say that I really like the Polish girls. I am not currently in Poland but I am studying at a German university and know many polish girls. They are cute and really friendly. I have been to Krakow and it is really nice. I am not sure if I could put up with the polish winters.
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patrykt



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex I'm not following your math. 45 zlotys times 80 hours a month comes out to be 3600 zlotys, which means that our friend is only paying 800 zlotys a month. That seems reasonable. Assuming that our friend doesn't have any student loans or credit card debts dogging him from back home, he'll be okay. Throw in a few extra hours at another school or a couple of private lessons and he'll be fine.
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrykt wrote:
Alex I'm not following your math. 45 zlotys times 80 hours a month comes out to be 3600 zlotys, which means that our friend is only paying 800 zlotys a month. That seems reasonable. Assuming that our friend doesn't have any student loans or credit card debts dogging him from back home, he'll be okay. Throw in a few extra hours at another school or a couple of private lessons and he'll be fine.



45PLN is the rate for 45 minutes of classes. Do 26 of that length of class per week and you work 20 hours (as in 60 minutes = 1 hour). 26 times 45PLN times 4.3 (the number of weeks in a month) equals 5031PLN.

I agree that the original poster will be doing just about OK on 2800PLN per month as he won't be paying any rent. But that fact is still that the school are not offering a competitive salary by any stretch of the imagination. Well, not unless they have the guy in a four room 90 square metre apartment with three balconies in a brand new building with a gym and swimming pool in the basement, and a reception desk with two security guards controlling access to the building 24 hours a day. That is what 2200PLN a month buys!
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Steve Smith



Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Nice apartment, Alex! Reply with quote

Blimey Alex! Please show me where I can get a flat like that for 2,200zl! Links to websites, scans of Anonse pages, phone nos, whatever you've got!
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice apartment, Alex! Reply with quote

Steve Smith wrote:
Blimey Alex! Please show me where I can get a flat like that for 2,200zl! Links to websites, scans of Anonse pages, phone nos, whatever you've got!


You'd have to speak to the guy who has it to find out where he got it. US$750 a month is what he's paying. The flat is just over the river opposite the zoo.
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Nauczyciel



Joined: 17 Oct 2004
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Location: www.commonwealth.pl

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news from mgee? How is the job?
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patrykt



Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex here in Poznan a teaching hour is 45-50 minutes. So when you say that you work 20 hours that means you only have 15 hours of actual class time, but are paid for 20. I like the mathematics in Poznan.
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peekay



Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm I've been offered 2 jobs, both seem reputable schools. One paying 1800 zl plus free accommodation and bills, the other approx 2400 zl no accommodation costs included. Both for around 25 hours a week I believe.

Sounds like this won't be enough to survive on - or have things changed since this thread started?
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peekay wrote:
Hmm I've been offered 2 jobs, both seem reputable schools. One paying 1800 zl plus free accommodation and bills, the other approx 2400 zl no accommodation costs included. Both for around 25 hours a week I believe.

Sounds like this won't be enough to survive on - or have things changed since this thread started?



Where are these jobs? You might be able to survive in a smaller town in Poland B on 1800PLN per month but it won't be enough to travel or eat out much.
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peekay



Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One is in Opole and the other is in Gdynia. I'm not much of a party animal (too old Smile ) but would at least like to be able to afford the odd ryanair flight home for the weekend! I know I'd be able to supplement the income with privates but not sure how easy they'd be to come by.

Its my first post qualification EFL job abroad (although I've taught adult literacy in the UK) so don't expect to be able to get the best paid jobs around - just looking for experience and a foot in the door at this stage. But on the other hand I don't want to have to live like a total hermit Smile
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cheeseandegg



Joined: 26 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm earning 4500zl per month and paying just 400zl for my flat (tax fiddle). The side effect of this is that I'm living in a miserable little town kilometres away from anything. I've had enough now and decided to apply for a job with Angloschool in Warszawa regardless of the obvious drop in salary. Money isn't everything as I've now realised. I can't wait to be living in a big city again!
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mezdupa



Joined: 09 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Shulgin wrote:
patrykt wrote:
Alex I'm not following your math. 45 zlotys times 80 hours a month comes out to be 3600 zlotys, which means that our friend is only paying 800 zlotys a month. That seems reasonable. Assuming that our friend doesn't have any student loans or credit card debts dogging him from back home, he'll be okay. Throw in a few extra hours at another school or a couple of private lessons and he'll be fine.



45PLN is the rate for 45 minutes of classes. Do 26 of that length of class per week and you work 20 hours (as in 60 minutes = 1 hour). 26 times 45PLN times 4.3 (the number of weeks in a month) equals 5031PLN.

I agree that the original poster will be doing just about OK on 2800PLN per month as he won't be paying any rent. But that fact is still that the school are not offering a competitive salary by any stretch of the imagination. Well, not unless they have the guy in a four room 90 square metre apartment with three balconies in a brand new building with a gym and swimming pool in the basement, and a reception desk with two security guards controlling access to the building 24 hours a day. That is what 2200PLN a month buys!


If you live like that Alex, can I have a job where you are and can I move in with you Razz ?
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