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Some General Questions about Buenos Aires
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ObaGol



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: Some General Questions about Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi guys, hows it going?
You have probably heard these questions a million times, but I am gonna ask them again. I am too lazy to look for all answers to the questions I am about to ask. Wink

so here they are
1. Is Buenos Aires a good place looking for TEFL teachers? So is it possible to secure a job before arrival? Or can you get a steady job within 3 or 4 weeks of arriving in Buenos Aires?

2. What is the money like. Does Argentina use mostly american money now? Also is it possible to get a job that you can live off of comfortably? And to one day support a family?

3. What is the housing or apartment situation like? How is it to rent a 2 or 3 bedroom house in Buenos Aires? Is it expensive. Same type of question about the apartment?

4. How are the Argentinian people? Are they on the overall friendly side to foreigners, or are they snobby and stuck up?

5. On a teachers salary, is it possible to save some money, go out from time to time, and do some travelling on the side?

6. I need to touch up on my spanish, so are there good Spanish as a second language schools?

7. How are the Hospitals? Is Health Care exspensive?

Well, thats about it for now. I will greatly appreciate any help on these questions. And to see you guys one day Smile
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veggieboy



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Buenos Aires

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2. Not really. Possible, not easy.

3. Frustrating.

4. As a foreigner, you will be hoisted on their shoulders and paraded through the streets.

5. No; yes; only if you have savings and/or travel very cheaply.

6. Yes.
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YanquiQuilme�o



Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 122
Location: Quilmes, Argentina

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Some General Questions about Buenos Aires Reply with quote

So is it possible to secure a job before arrival?

Almost impossible to secure a TEFL job especially if you're young and have little experience.

Or can you get a steady job within 3 or 4 weeks of arriving in Buenos Aires?

Yes. But you'll more likely need a little bit of work here and there at different companies.

Does Argentina use mostly american money now?

No.

Also is it possible to get a job that you can live off of comfortably? And to one day support a family?

I personally would never want to try to raise a family in Argentina if I were an EFL teacher unless my partner had an excellent job.

What is the housing or apartment situation like? How is it to rent a 2 or 3 bedroom house in Buenos Aires? Is it expensive. Same type of question about the apartment?

On an EFL teacher's salary, it is extremely difficult to rent something that you'll like. The housing and apartment situation is quite difficult. If you're imagining a quaint little apartment to yourself in a nice part of the city, you can keep dreaming if an EFL salary is what you plan to live on. Just not gonna happen ...

4. How are the Argentinian people? Are they on the overall friendly side to foreigners, or are they snobby and stuck up?

Very friendly, very helpful to foreigners, talkative, social, good-humored. Well dressed, good looking, family oriented. A bit undependable, have difficultly making firm commitments, and you've gotta look out for people who'll take advantage of you and try to cheat you more than you would back home.

5. On a teachers salary, is it possible to save some money, go out from time to time, and do some travelling on the side?

Go out from time to time, yes. Travel ... not really. Save money ... practically pointless. You could scrimp by and live super cheaply, and by the end of the year, you'd have saved what you could save in one month in the US if you lived with your parents and had no expenses.

6. I need to touch up on my spanish, so are there good Spanish as a second language schools?

Yes, plenty.

7. How are the Hospitals? Is Health Care exspensive?

Public hospitals are free. You wait a while, but it's free. I waited once for 1 hour for a doctor. They helped me. It was all free. Another time I went to a private clinic, saw a doctor immediately, and had to pay 15 pesos because I didnt have insurance. It's super super cheap compared to America ...
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ObaGol



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys!
Thanks alot for the feedback so far!! Surprised

I just thought of something else that would help too.
I was wondering what the Argentinian goverment is like?

I am not expecting it to be perfect or anything,
but is it really corrupt, and if a foreigner says something
nuaghty will he end up in a dungeon, or get immediatley deported?

Or is the goverment pretty leaniant now?

Thanks alot guys, and keep the information coming Smile
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YanquiQuilme�o



Joined: 20 Oct 2005
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Location: Quilmes, Argentina

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Argentine government is corrupt in many ways. If you just live a normal, law-abiding life, you will not be deported. They don't care about First-World illegal immigrants at all.

Are you planning to break the law here?
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Carolina



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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Location: Buenos Aires

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: So then... why why why??????????? Reply with quote

I'm an Argentinian English teacher who has been studying English since I was in first grade at primary school. I got my degree at UCA university, which took me a long time and hard work. I love being a teacher, love English and cannot picture myself doing anything else.
Nevertheless I do sometimes wonder what could my life have been like if I hadn't persued this career. I'm 30, single and living with my parents because as you all natives very well explain, it's impossible for me (esl teacher in Buenos Aires) to make ends meet, let alone rent an apartment or go on holiday. So, I can't help but wonder, why do YOU native speakers of the English language, living in USA or Britain, would come here to BA to teach English, already knowing how little money you can make, how difficult things are here and above all, readind all those posts describing so well our bizarre argentinian customs, traditions, habits ????
Why? What for?? Just to learn Spanish??? Is it worth it???
Enlighten me, please.
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carlos-england



Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 165
Location: Buenos Aires - Cabalitto

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Some General Questions about Buenos Aires Reply with quote

ObaGol wrote:
Hi guys, hows it going?
You have probably heard these questions a million times, but I am gonna ask them again. I am too lazy to look for all answers to the questions I am about to ask. Wink

so here they are
1. Is Buenos Aires a good place looking for TEFL teachers? So is it possible to secure a job before arrival? Or can you get a steady job within 3 or 4 weeks of arriving in Buenos Aires?

Lots of English schools about, most peoples dream is to live and work in the United States so it seems... they know they need a good standard of English to make it there. You'll get work that will not be a problem.

2. What is the money like. Does Argentina use mostly american money now? Also is it possible to get a job that you can live off of comfortably? And to one day support a family?

The best way to get ripped off in shops is to use dollars, it is easy enough to change your cash at somewhere like Rio Banco and you won't get ripped off. Not many people can work and save, never mind EFL teachers.

3. What is the housing or apartment situation like? How is it to rent a 2 or 3 bedroom house in Buenos Aires? Is it expensive. Same type of question about the apartment?

Try and bring cash with you when you go out there, I think it is criminal British/Americans sliding on their backside because they didn't bring enough money out with them in the first place, try and get 5-6000 dollars
saved and once you are working and got a place, that should be enough of a cushion for you to live well.

4. How are the Argentinian people? Are they on the overall friendly side to foreigners, or are they snobby and stuck up?

Top people, very friendly. Can't say enough good things about the average person on the street. Everyone is nice and thats the greatest thing about the place.

5. On a teachers salary, is it possible to save some money, go out from time to time, and do some travelling on the side?

Depends... you'll be able to go to Uruguay or probably somewhere like Mar Del Plata in the summer (highly recommended if you are a single heterosexual man) but places like Colombia or Peru, I doubt it.

6. I need to touch up on my spanish, so are there good Spanish as a second language schools?

Yes, there are quite a few of those. You will need to come with some knowledge of Spanish.

7. How are the Hospitals? Is Health Care exspensive?

All the people I know used private health care. There are French/British/Italian hospitals. Never been in a hospital there to be honest though I know there is free health care.

Well, thats about it for now. I will greatly appreciate any help on these questions. And to see you guys one day Smile
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ObaGol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no. I am a law abiding citizen. But I was just curious, that if I am walking down the street one day, some angry Argenitian cop, or soldier decides to arrest me for something I didn't do. I don't think that would happen, but just odd scenarios like that. You know?[/quote]
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YanquiQuilme�o



Joined: 20 Oct 2005
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Location: Quilmes, Argentina

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, that kind of stuff does not happen at all. Just live a normal life, and you'll never be bothered by the police.
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guillebaires



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 82
Location: Belgrano, Buenos Aires

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ObaGol wrote:
No, no. I am a law abiding citizen. But I was just curious, that if I am walking down the street one day, some angry Argenitian cop, or soldier decides to arrest me for something I didn't do. I don't think that would happen, but just odd scenarios like that. You know?
[/quote]

Are you joking, right???
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ObaGol



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ha ha ha, yeah I am serious.
I know nothing about Buenos Aires, or Argentina.
All I know about Argentina is Maradona is a god, and Brazil and Argentina are fierce football rivals. I really do not know much. So I am asking you guys for a heads up before I come to Buenos Aires one day.

I slipped up on the quotes thing. So I goofed there.
But I really am clueless about Buenos Aires. But it sticks out to me like a diamond in the rough. And I would really like to check it out, and stay for awhile. So any usefull information would be great. Smile

Thanks
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theupscalepanhandler



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: So then... why why why??????????? Reply with quote

Carolina wrote:
I'm an Argentinian English teacher who has been studying English since I was in first grade at primary school. I got my degree at UCA university, which took me a long time and hard work. I love being a teacher, love English and cannot picture myself doing anything else.
Nevertheless I do sometimes wonder what could my life have been like if I hadn't persued this career. I'm 30, single and living with my parents because as you all natives very well explain, it's impossible for me (esl teacher in Buenos Aires) to make ends meet, let alone rent an apartment or go on holiday. So, I can't help but wonder, why do YOU native speakers of the English language, living in USA or Britain, would come here to BA to teach English, already knowing how little money you can make, how difficult things are here and above all, readind all those posts describing so well our bizarre argentinian customs, traditions, habits ????
Why? What for?? Just to learn Spanish??? Is it worth it???
Enlighten me, please.


For me, its not a question of how much I can earn but rather something that I could organize my life around in the event I decided to live in a foreign country for an extended period. I expect I would have to supplement my income from my savings. Doing absolutely nothing can get really boring, unless one is filthy rich and can afford to live like a tourist year round. I haven't yet secured a job as an ESL teacher (I haven't really tried yet) but I just returned from 2 months in Argentina. Ideally I would like to be able to teach 3 months of the year during the Canadian winter but I think that that type of position would be quite difficult to find.
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ClaudeRains



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do they want to come, Carolina? The wine, the food, the tango, the landscapes...the life force of your land. Would that all the world were Argentina.
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Munchen



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: How about US retirees living on US Social Security? Reply with quote

A bit of an off topic and I have written to this forum before but always like to get updates.
I have been an EFL teacher in Spain in my younger days and understand that since the devaluation of the Argentine Peso, BA is quite affordable.
I am single and live a modest lifestyle. I know Spanish and have always enjoyed meeting people from all over the Spanish speaking world.
Argentines I have encountered in the United States are really great.
It may seem like a broad question, but how well can one live in BA on US $1,000 per month? I would have some reserve funds to set up an apartment. Not interested in a car, would use public transit system to get around.
Fix my own breakfasts but would probably eat one meal out a day.
Would be interested in what may be considered "safet" neighborhoods.
Of course, Hope I can visit before making that decision.
Would like any feedback.
Thanks.
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cryptolect



Joined: 15 Jan 2006
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Location: San Telmo

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Munchen, I would say you can live very well here on USD 1000 a month.
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