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Anharchy



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: New Member - Reading as much as I can but... Reply with quote

Hello everyone ~ I've been reading this forum religiously since December (after I submitted my JET apps), and I'm astounded by the (general) helpfulness of everyone here. However, try search-strings as I might, I haven't been able to come up with a solution to my particular set of questions yet, and thought I'd ask.

Here's a little background:

I just graduated from college (B.A. in Anthropology) in May, and am currently in the process of applying to the JET program. My S.O. (about to graduate law school) also applied to JET, but whilst I've made it to interviews, he unfortunately hasn't. We've been gathering as much advice from previous posters as we can regarding the big eikawas (looking at AEON/ECC thus far), and avidly discussing what route to take re: back-up plans, locations (we REALLY. REALLY. want to go.) I requested the Kinki region in general, suburban zones, as I'd like to do cultural research in Osaka/Kyoto on the weekends whenever possible. So here are my questions:

1. Has anyone here been in a situation where pre-existing couple, both applying to JET, have one get in and one NOT get in?

2. Subsequently, how did you deal with that in terms of living arrangements and obtaining job/visa for the non-JET partner? Does JET mind cohabitation?

3. I guess this is related - worst-case scenario: Is it possible to support two people on a single JET salary? Theoretically, we might be able to beg our parents to subsidize a small amount, but I'm trying not to rely on that. Adulthood and all.

And, these is slightly off-topic, but I've heard some strange things and would like to see what everyone's experiences are:

4. How do the Japanese feel about other Asians? I'm of Vietnamese ethnicity, and I've heard things ranging from "it doesn't matter" to "you'll have an...interesting...time." Not exactly cheery. If it changes anything in the experience, I'm also female, although tall-ish for an Asian girl.

I have a crapload of other questions too, but as it's late, thank you for tolerating my verbosity, and if anyone has any answers or a link to any answers, I'd totally appreciate it.

Thanks again in advance!
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Zzonkmiles



Joined: 05 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If by SO you mean SPOUSE, then your "SO" could enter Japan on a dependent visa. However, if your SO is only your BOYFRIEND, then he is not eligible to apply for that. It looks like the only way a BOYFRIEND would be able to enter Japan is through a work visa of his own, which means he needs to start hitting the interview circuit. Fortunately for him, if he's about to finish law school, that should mean he already has a bachelor's degree. You need at least a BA to get the work visa. As for finding a job, AEON, NOVA, ECC, and GEOS are the usual suspects when it comes to being hired from abroad, although there are no guarantees with where you will be placed. However, if you opt to work for NOVA's Multimedia Center, that will guarantee you an Osaka placement.

Good luck getting placed near Osaka though. There aren't so many JETs there to begin with and it's a highly requested area. You might be better off requesting Hyogo or Nara and hoping you don't get stuck too far out in the boonies, which is where most JETs are assigned.

As for the ethnic part, a lot of times the Japanese will mistake you for a Japanese person and come up to you and ask for directions. There are several foreigners of Asian descent working here--I've been friends with several of them, including Chinese-Canadians, Vietnamese-Americans, and South Asian Americans, among others. You might get some stares, but generally people are not going to hassle you. They might even be surprised or envious of you if they hear perfect English come out of your mouth. Anyway, if you've experienced discrimination or feeling like an "outsider" back in your home country, then Japan should be easy for you.

Good luck to you and your "SO."
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David W



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'd be better off asking this question over at Big Daikon. I can almost guarantee there will be JETs who have experienced/are experiencing all or some of the things you've asked about.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. Has anyone here been in a situation where pre-existing couple, both applying to JET, have one get in and one NOT get in?

Yes, it happens. Not to me, but it happens.

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2. Subsequently, how did you deal with that in terms of living arrangements and obtaining job/visa for the non-JET partner? Does JET mind cohabitation?

As Zzonk wrote, unless you are married, there are limited options. Your non-spouse S.O. would have to enter and re-enter on a tourist status (sometimes considered suspicious by immigration for multiple reentries). If he is British, Canadian, Aussie, or New Zealander, he might qualify for a working holiday visa (sorry, no Americans), which would permit him to stay longer. It would even permit him to work legally.

JET doesn't help your spouse or S.O. get visas or jobs. He is on his own.

JET has reportedly permitted cohabitation, but survival is up to you.

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3. I guess this is related - worst-case scenario: Is it possible to support two people on a single JET salary?

Maybe, but it will be tight. Some JET ALTs get free or greatly reduced rent, which would help you a lot, but you won't know about that until you are here. 300,000 yen/month is the salary, and if you have to pay for housing, plan on burning 125,000 of that on basic necessities, perhaps a bit more depending on your eating habits. Remember that you are likely to be placed in a rural area where rent SHOULD be lower, but you can't count on that. How you two plan to live on the rest depends on your lifestyles. What is your S.O. going to do with his days while you are working 9 to 5? In a rural town, there might not be much to capture his attention all day long.

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4. How do the Japanese feel about other Asians? I'm of Vietnamese ethnicity, and I've heard things ranging from "it doesn't matter" to "you'll have an...interesting...time."

I'm not Asian, so you're getting hearsay from me. Those quotes are about right. If you look significantly close enough to Japanese, you might be mistaken for one and there may be some awkwardness in situations until the locals notice you can't speak Japanese well. On the positive side, you might go unnoticed in a crowd, which is nice if you are in an area where few foreigners have trod and where you would otherwise be stared at. One thing is for certain. In a small town, you will be known quite well, even by 99% of the population that you have not met. So, be careful about what you do or say. You are ambassadors of your country whether you like it or not.
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kdynamic



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you get into JET and where you get placed. If you are in a midsize to big city, he will have no trouble finding work. If you get put out in nowhere it will be much harder. Also see what kind fo living situation you get. Your place might not be big enough for two people in which case you'll have to move out. You guy could come on a 90 tourist visa and look for work.
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Anharchy



Joined: 31 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zzonk:

Fiance is the proper term for him, but I hate using it because we're not like, "OhmygodgettingmarriedinJuneholycraps!" Japan first, and then we'll plan the rest Very Happy. But, I don't figure his status is any different from Boyfriend in visa-land, so that's why we were figuring upon eikaiwa as an alternative. Worst-case scenario was with the idea that he'd take his 90 day touristy-ness (i've been reading!) and we'd struggle it out for those three months if he couldn't get a job from the U.S. I'm not really figuring on being placed in Osaka itself - just close enough that I can get there by train without it being ridiculously expensive.


David W: I'll try that too. Thanks!

Glenski: Yeah, I've heard - JET's pretty much only concerned with the disposition of its ALT and that's where it ends. I'm more curious about how strict they are, and whether they have any concern regarding the "image" of their program as it relates to unmarried couples living together. And knowing him, he'll sleep 'til 12 and then go around drooling over the architecture (he loves traditional Japanese/Chinese building and fantasizes about us building one here - dork.) And get a job (very important) haha.

I will try to be as tactful as possible, difficult though it may be Smile.

kdynamic: Yeah, the living situation thing does wig me out a little bit, since I've looked at the various bits you pay just to GET one. Key money + Commission + Deposit + Rent for the first month? Worse than where I live!! My wallet's wailing in pain right now.
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wintersweet



Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area