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[blckgalinchina]

I just want to let people know about a Fradulent company based out of Beijing with a branch in Dalian (liaoning province, northeast China). The company will recruit with ease and may even pay for you to come and have a look even put you up in a hotel for your visit. But once they hire you it is over. The name is F & S International Education, they may also call themselves NCC the website is www.fsintledu.com, the contact person name is Frank Sun or Chang Yezhen who's english name is Jonah. This company only advertises on thatsbj.com. The schools were they operate from in Dalian is Sunshine Private school or Asksun the school goes by both names also Dalian Light and Industry University.

O.K. before being hired I made them aware of the fact that I would have to break contract with the university I was at to work for them. They agreed to it and assured me that they could just transfer my Z visa. After two months of working and asking why they haven't taken care of my Visa they gave me some song and dance about them being a small middle school and not a well connected university. What!!! So I called the American Consul to find out what really was going on. The comapny can't even get Z Visa's and applying for a F visa is hard for them as well so most of the teachers have tourist Visa's.

Ok now salary. The agreed amount was 6500rmb with a sign on bonus of 3000rmb. A 2 bedroom flat (apt.) but I pay all utilities. So I never in the 3 months that I endured the BS saw 6500rmb I was deducted expenses that I could never figure out what it was for. They refuse to give you money unless you sign the receipt so I did. I'm in China I can't read anything. Anyway so I was always paid half salary. Oh I wAs suposed to get a full salary for the holiday. It never happened. I got a total of 800rmb which was what they gave me for Jan. I never received my holiday salary. I never had a working fridge which was the schools responsinility.

After I told the school I contacted the American Consulate they had a fit. I was sent very rude and horrible emails and was told right before the semester break that they were not going to call me an employee. Unless I give them my passport ASAP. I was advised not to give them Passports (schools are known for keeping passports and holding teachers hostage for the most part) anyway I got a email two days before I got my Jan. pay saying by the way we decided not to pay you for the holiday. This school was a Hot Mess. Anything but legitimate and by American standards illegal. I am in the process of seeking legal consul in the US to see if I can file a claim against the US branch of this made up shop. Frank's english is very good and he will claim that he has an American education. Becareful and run from this place especially if you are a woman. I was the only one and I got played in everyway possible.

I think the best place to ensure you get paid is at public Universities. I am from Houston a woman and i'm Black. I found China to be one of the rasict and sexist places I have ever been and I have been to every continent. The staring is unbareable.

well I wish I saw something like this before I came to China and once I was here. I hope it helps at least one person.

[tw]

[erinyes]

[HunanForeignGuy]

Dear Friends,

Forgive me..this is slightly off the question, but I am a little surprised by all of the typos, the spelling mistakes and the numerous grammatical errors in the original posting. Was this posting written by a native speaker? It reads to me as if it were not...

In any case, TW, please share more of your comments with us. What do you know about this school?

And to the writer of the original posting -- perhaps you might also consider sharing some of your comments with the readers on www.eslteachersboard.com and on www.englishschoolwatch.org so that other prospective employees might be well informed before they venture forth...

With kind regards,

Hunan Foreign Guy

[blckgalinchina]

Hi TW,

I signed a contract to teach at sunshine school. In my contract it has the pay laid out. Frank did pull some mess with having the failing university students come to the school and be tutored. Not in my contract and they didn't pay me extra for it and got POed at me for asking questions. Since the other teachers went along with it.

As far as telling them what I did. You may be right I coukd have kept quite but why. They need to know that foreigners aren't stupid and aware of the BS.

Yes, the descriptions you gave are accurate and the stuff about the British guy is news to me. I never even know about him. Well I just hope my experience can help other westerners who come to China.

Thanks for replying and giving extra info TW

[blckgalinchina]

To HunanForeignGuy,

Thanks for the tip in regards to the other sites. As far as my native status. I am an American. I didn't see the need to proof read but I see that was a mistake. If my errors offend you then that is your business. I just want to tell other people what to look out for. That is my only reason for posting.

blckgalinchina

[HunanForeignGuy]

[tw]

[Babala]

It not be relevant but why is it that you broke a contract to come to this school?

[HunanForeignGuy]

[tw]

[thepreferrednomenclature]

HunanForeignGuy,

You're welcome to visit the poll entitled "Who is to blame?" I believe the conspiracy option lies vacant. As your first impulse clearly pushed you in this direction, you can proudly add your name to the register.

ThePN

[HunanForeignGuy]

[quote="thepreferrednomenclature"]HunanForeignGuy,

You're welcome to visit the poll entitled "Who is to blame?" I believe the conspiracy option lies vacant. As your first impulse clearly pushed you in this direction, you can proudly add your name to the register.

ThePN[/quote

Thank you for your advice. I'll think about it.

[latefordinner]

First, my apologies to blckgalinchina. When I first skimmed your original post I thought you were another of the teachers leaving here. Feel free to laugh and dump my PM, but please accept the spirit of collegial support. And yes, I promise to learn to read more carefully in the future.

For those of you unfamiliar with DILI, it is a college on the outskirts of Dalian with a mixed reputation. I personally am enjoying it very much, and a large part of that is that my wife and I enjoy rather good relations with the FAO. Unfortunately, few of the other foreign teachers can say the same thing. One very important part of this is that I actually work for a recruiter, who handles my pay. I've always been paid promptly and correctly, something that isn't always the case in China. Moreover, when there are small issues that need to be resolved, the FAO and I seem able to work things out to mutual satisfaction.

The other fts don't work through this company, they work in one way or another through the people that blckgal has mentioned. They all have complaints. I've conferred with them on various aspects of our duties and I don't regard any of them as less than professional. One in particular I regard as one of the most professional teachers I have ever met. Yet the school treats these people in a most cavalier, unprofessional manner. Part of that is the difference in who brought the ft to the school, but part of it also has to do with the foreign affairs office and how they handle their responsibilites. As far as I can see, they are hurting themselves for little gain.

I can't speak to the racism, but this being China it doesn't surprise me. I can however speak to the sexism. I won't lay out the details as the principles are still at the school, but can say that it is a factor in one person leaving.

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