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davec
Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Skidby
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: Is www.abroadchina.org/ a good place for finding jobs? |
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Is www.abroadchina.org/ a good place for finding jobs? |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I think no better or worse than any other job advertising site. The crucial thing is to do your home work BEFORE coming to China. Ask as many questions you can think of, get some contacts of current or former teachers at the school where you have the interest; save those emails from the prospective employer so, when you get to China, they can't say they didn't tell you this or that. Cover yourself the best you can before you get here so you can hopefully lessen those nasty surprises that so many seem to experience. |
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Shanghai, PRC
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Is www.abroadchina.org/ a good place for finding jobs? |
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Dear Friend,
The gentleman in charge of www.abroadchina.org is Mr. Wu. I have recommended friends of mine to him.
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To tell the 100% truth, I have also used them and I have NOT found them to be the most responsive of all of the agencies in China. As discussed somewhere on this site, if you are in Southern China you may wish to try Homeland Recruiting, Mr. Fred Yu. They are aggressive and fast-moving. If you meet the usual requirements (white, university graduate, native speaker, etc., etc.) they will probably send you 3-5 job offers within one-or-two days of receiving your info.
In the case of abroadchina, I have found them to be laconic at best. They respond very slowly and do not pay attention at all, or so it seems, to what you are asking them to do. In both case and one of my friend's case, they have actually misplaced our files after having received them.
If you want a good list of recruiters to use, just PM (it used to be here on Dave's but somehow it seems to have disappeared). In any case, AVOID Journeys East. New Times is quite recommended and in spite of all of the Buckland hype around here, avoid them. Run from Allin Buuer / Frank Zhong, etc. If you use Helen Zhou's TEFL Network, well, good luck 'cause the schools where you go won't look anything like the pictures you will be shown. Angelina's ESL Cafe is a tad slow but really efficient over the long-term and they actually found me a dream job in China. I was quite lucky.
All the best and as I said, PM me if you need me.
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tgb
Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 76 Location: GZ
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: abroadchina.org |
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I used abroadchina.org as my recruiter here and Mr Wu was very helpful. In my first summer job the school tried to screw me and Mr Wu arrived within about 90 minutes. He assured me he would pay me the wages if the school did not and sorted everything out within a few hours.
I think he's a pretty good guy, but will admit himself he knows more about Guangdong schools than those further afield.
Good Luck
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Leon Purvis
Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 420 Location: Nowhere Near Beijing
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. I didn't realize that abroadchina.org was an agency. I placed my resume there two times and got two jobs in three years, all state jobs. I corresponded with LOTS of schools thru abroadchina but NEVER corresponded with anyone at AC except a guy named Simon (his last name wasn't Wu) who pretty much explained that the website was just a BB for posting jobs and resumes.
There was never any kind of followup from AC.org, so I'm kinda surprised that anyone would consider it an agency like the ones who have "women" recruiters. Some of them even try to snag people on job forums and culture/language forums.
But abroadchina.org a recruiting agency? Wow. Who knew? |
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tgb
Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 76 Location: GZ
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I think it depends where you are from. Mr Wu dealt with me (from the UK) but i know another guy dealt with people from other countries. When he introduced me to the summer school he told me i could pay him 5% to be like a client of his or just run with the school and hope all was ok. I paid the 5% and when the school tried to rip me off he sorted it all out. I end up saving money by paying money. Perhaps the rarity rather than the rule.
So perhaps this website acts as both a posting board and a recruitig board. Not sure...
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Leon Purvis
Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 420 Location: Nowhere Near Beijing
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I guess. That's China fer ya. You never get the same answer from anyboddy, including the laowais. |
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