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tjpnz2000
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 118 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:10 am Post subject: ESL as New Zealand music |
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Had to post something before they take this forum away because nobody says anything
Here goes:
Why we do it
April sun in Cuba- Dragon (Yeah, I know they live in Australia now)
Contracts
Shark attack- Split Enz
Presure man- The feelers
Renegade fighter- Zed
Relationships
I see red- Split Enz
Tripping- 1927
Working
Loyal- Dave Dobbin
In class
Frieghtened- Split Enz
Leaving your job
You don't need me like you used to- Knightshade
Don't dream it's over- Crowded House (Yeah, I know 2 of them were Australian. Aussies can claim them too)
Going to the pub
Bliss- Th' Dudes
Cultural differences
How bizzar- OMC
Language
You got to know, to understand- Supergroove
Returning to the homeland
Home again- Shihad
Because we are Kiwi's and we got no choice
Poi E- The Patea Maori club
10 Guitars- Anybody how happens to have, but not nessesarily know how to play, a guitar.
Come on Aussies! You have some great stuff! Be in quick or I will do it myself!
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:54 am Post subject: |
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very interesting
I hope that they don't get rid of this board |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:10 am Post subject: misandragogy |
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Q: Why are the Aussie women teachers absent from this forum?
A: They are too busy posting "kick me, I deserve it, I'm a wretched man"
signs on their boyfriends' persons. |
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Kereru
Joined: 24 May 2003 Posts: 32 Location: Christchurch NZ
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:17 am Post subject: Sad - but true |
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It is true that the NZ ESL market is very flat at present, but most of the good language schools are surviving - maybe not recruiting. A large new private school for 13-18 year olds opens in Chch in a week or two - they were expecting to open with 80 pupils & build to 200 by next year but have only 40 (when I last heard). However with the announcement of new immigration policies a NZ education has become almost a must for those seeking to migrate. My school turned away 20 students with cash in hand last month because we have a ceiling of 250. |
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tjpnz2000
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 118 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Yeah... about those new immigration rules... All I know is what I have seen on nzoom.
What is the story?
The old rules had thier problems but I have some serious reservations about the idea of immigration `actively recruiting` to fill `skill gaps`.
Any insight? |
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lorcan1996
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 5:32 pm Post subject: NZ education necessary for immigration purposes? |
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Greetings! I read with interest Kereru's comment about how an NZ educatoin is almost a must now with new immigration policies in place. I've read most of the documents relating to the new immigration laws and must admit, it's pretty discouraging.
So does it look like the best way to migrate to NZ with the purpose of eventually settling down there as a permanent resident is to pursue a degree there? I'm working towards a grad cert in ESL at a local university (I'm in the U.S.) but would be willing to pursue further studies (i.e., an M.A.) in NZ if it would give me a better chance. Is it expensive for foreign students to attend NZ unis? What about toting along the hubby, who's also keen on working in NZ? (He's working on an MCSE, with an eye towards finding work as a systems or network admin.) Would he be allowed to work in NZ with his wife on a student's visa? I understand that in Australia, spouses of foreign students have unlimited work rights, but I didn't know if the same policy applied in NZ. The NZ immigration web site is SO not user-friendly when it comes to these seemingly simple questions.
Any advice would be most welcome! Thank you! |
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JosephP
Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 445
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 8:34 pm Post subject: NZIS...confusion reigns |
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I don't know about the student situation and spouses being able to get a job. But in my own situation (I'm from the USA) I was sponsored by my school for my work permit. My wife got an unrestricted work permit, meaning she could work for anyone who would hire her. My 6-year-old has a student visa, but it states she's is ineligible to work (ah well). My suggestion is that you contact the NZ embassy in Washington DC and talk to the nice people there. They were very helpful in answering my questions before I flew out here early January 2002.
Back to the original topic...Hip-hop appears to be the going style in Auckland now. To these 46-year-old ears it is annoying rubbish. However, there was a pretty cool single called "Japanese Girls" released by a band called Pan Am that had thrashing guitars and big beats that I thought rocked. The Datsuns also make a satisfying racket. |
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tjpnz2000
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 118 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
On a tangent to my original post, where is a good place to find New Zealand music on the web?
My `Natures Best` CD is starting to wear a bit thin and the chances of finding any thing from Middle Earath here in Japan is absolutely zero.
Hopefully I can catch the yearly Exponents or Dave Dobbin summer tour when I go back for christmas. Oh, boy! I can almost taste the crayfish and Mac Beer and feel the sunburn all set to the wonderful guitar riff from Bliss.
Homesick? Who me?
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grahamb
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:16 am Post subject: NZ music for EFL teachers |
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As the Kiwis and Aussies are lumped together on this forum, how about the Aussie classic, "Friday on my mind" by the Easybeats (1966)? I'm sure we all agree with the sentiments expressed in that song! |
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tjpnz2000
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 118 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Great Aussie songs for ESL
Work;
Working Class Man- Jimmy Barns
The Best- Tina Turner and Jimmy Barns
Relationships;
Come on [insert name here] (Ilean in the original)- Dixies Midnight Runners.
Culture Shock;
Thunder Struck- AC/DC
Sorry Aussies, you had your chance.
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Yes where are the Kiwis and 4Xes on this forum? are they boycottting it or are they too busy shagging sheep? what is the deal? Ah, I know, you're all on crystal meths. Sorry lot the bunch of you!!!!!!!!!!! |
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tjpnz2000
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 118 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Them`s fighting words frog
Only people from Australia and the South Island have relations with sheep. Spot the JAFFA.
I think the thing is that while there are many, or at least a few, of us antipodians living and teaching abroad the ESL industry in our native lands is probably equal to that of Canada, the US or England. Funny that as our first language is English
Therefore, this forum tends to be dominated by 2 types of post.
1) Someone from `up north` saying `I want to teach ESL in the exotic south seas with the dusky natives` and the rest of us saying `Well... we don't like to be negative... but...`.
and;
2) Posts by me about what it is like to be a Kiwi ESLer overseas.
You don't see much traffic on the North America, or Europe forum.
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grahamb
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:56 am Post subject: Australians and sheep |
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Well done, Khmerhit, you've found a naughty word the censor doesn't recognise!
Make the most of it before it's added to the dictionary. |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:22 am Post subject: |
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shag.... yes it seems to work. youre right. shag ... shagtastic.. shagadelic..
i could go on, |
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grahamb
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 10:16 am Post subject: More shag |
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In Britain, "rough shag" refers to a kind of tobacco (for pipes, I believe): |
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