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william wallace
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 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: Could any of these folks work in another country ? |
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Not St Louis
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: Thailand |
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| All of the above would be welcome to teach in Thailand and would easily find jobs. |
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william wallace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: Dear not... |
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JZer
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What do you expect for $500 U.S. a month? Unless you really want to learn Chinese or see China, I don't think there are a lot of reasons for going to China. Add the fact that China is large and that there are a lot of ESL jobs in China.
Plus if I want to work for $500 a month I would go to South America since I think it is a lot easier to make friends there and the parties are better. ohh and the beach!!! |
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Stephen Jones
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| Meaning, if I'm in India making 200 dollars a month in my career as a computer engineer, |
A computer programmer or computer engineer in India should be pulling between $700 -$1,200 a month in most places. As demand is increasing salaries are going up at a rate of about 305 a year.
Even a call-center worker could expect in the region of $400-$500 a month. |
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william wallace
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: But........ |
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Jizzo T. Clown
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| While just about anyone can teach in China, it seems to me that the schools there would want a western face for marketing purposes. For example, at EF, some of the students once told me that they used to go to another private English school, but the teachers there were from the Phillipines, and they wanted to learn real English, which is why they came to EF. |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: Re: But........ |
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| william wallace wrote: |
but for some reason, let's say bureaucratic red tape, is stopping him from going directly to either of those better paying cities/countries |
What IELTS score would you give that ?
Your face looks familiar ... but anyway ... is your age the reason why you're having to teach alongside these people ... good for China ... I know the Gulf, for one, doesn't give opportunities to octogenarians ...
.. keep it up grandad ! |
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Stephen Jones
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Dear Stephen,
That's all very interesting, and all, but that has little in the way of my point. Ok... A recent graduate of computer engineering working in Mumbai, India feels that he MAY make a wee bit more in London or New York city, but for some reason, let's say bureaucratic red tape, is stopping him from going directly to either of those better paying cities/countries, so he....and on with what I had originally tried to ALLUDE to. |
It has a lot to do with your "point". A computer engineer in India will earn more than an English teacher in China; he will earn more than an American or British English teacher in China. There is absolutely no reason for him to go to China.
As for third world salaries increasing you are making a generalization; I was referring to salaries for software engineers in India increasing as a result of increased demand - not other salaries in India, or anywhere else in the Third World.
You are quite likely to get English teachers from India in China; outside of the universities teaching in India is not that well paid, but those who have skills useful for the West, such as doctors or engineers, are not going to mess up their career by bumming around China teaching English for not much more, or significantly less, than they can earn at home. |
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Cdaniels
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Certification "factories" in Thailand |
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| Really ? With all those TOEFL, TEFL, CELTA factories there? (Thailand) |
I would guess that many graduates either go to other places (maybe China!) or decide not to continue teaching EFL. |
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william wallace
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: Off on tangents...... |
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memorabilis
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Most Indians do not in fact have poor pronunciation. They speak excellent Indian English which is its own dialect. There are millions of Indian English native speakers, many of whom would be excellent teachers in China. While I worked in India, the Indian trainers there had native control of the language.
"but for some reason, let's say bureaucratic red tape, is stopping him from going directly to either of those better paying cities/countries" - but for some reason IS stopping? Can't you see it? |
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william wallace
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: Dear Memorabilis... |
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Stephen Jones
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| Now I was ONLY using my ability to comprehend via my ears- I simply could not understand that person. |
Good tning he wasn't from Glasgow, or you'd have had to give him a zero :) |
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ls650
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| A computer engineer in India will earn more than an English teacher in China; he will earn more than an American or British English teacher in China. There is absolutely no reason for him to go to China. |
Personal interest? After all, I used to make five times my current salary working as a computer analyst in my home country, but I'm much happier teaching English for a pittance. (Well, it's actually a good salary here, but a pittance back 'home'.)
Why wouldn't a computer analyst from India feel the same? |
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