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paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

Whats the average polish salary for your average pole. It is just to compare with TEFL job money. E.G

I TO I is a huge company and is recognied amongst professionals, like CELTA tutors and recommend it. They offer 2400 zloty per month at minimum to 3600 a month. It csots 400 pounds to get the job for a 10 month contract and its available to every town and city in Poland. Ideal for the newbie like msyelf. Too daunting to just trot around and find a job that could be iffy.

By the way as im still a uni student this summer im going to Poland from 3rd july till like early mid sept to teach Englsih to get first experience its part paid and part voluntary its with ELI programs, offered 3 meals a day and accommodation 660 for the whole 8 weeks not bad for a one off program.

Spending money = here i mean money to take just incase im in deep lumber. So far around 600 pounds which is 3000 zloty. Plenty? if consid in hostles after my 8 week expeirence BECAUSE im going to vsiit polsih friends from USA last summer form CAMP AMERICA

Alex Shulgin · Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 553

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

paying 400 for a 10 month contract is better than paying 200 pounds for flights and another 400 pounds for travel money to find the job that might not be any good?

not being cocky but i am right arent i? what would you prefer

and as for the 660 for 2 months you noly do around 5 hours a day and its having 8 weeks experience, ur paying for the accommdoation and food basically. beats sending a CV to I TO I with NO teaching experience, like i said its a ONE OFF.

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

You have to look at it from my point of view. Paying MAX 400 pounds is good compared with having nothing except some guts and money and packing a rucksack n fly to Poland with LOT airlines lol. I like the idea of having guaranteed job.

Its a one off as second year id most liekly having ALOT of confidnece to either stay with the school or simply look elsewhere. With 1 years experience im bound to be picked.

Ive only visited Poland ONCE. That was Warsaw and Torun. Personal reason visit which I wont go into, was no holiday trip. Surprised by how cheap prices were though. I knew it would be cheap but man lol. 1 Quid for a pint near enough.

Grrrmachine · Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 265 Location: Warsaw, Poland

I think Alex is right here. Paying 400 pounds for a contract just seems ridiculous to me. Before you do that, do some research, send your CV off to the local schools in the area you want, and see if some show some interest. You never know, you might get offered a place - worked for me.
Plus, 200 in flights is steep - look at SkyEurope if you think LOT is too expensive.

Your average wage will be in the 2500-4000zl zone, unless youre in Warsaw (I took home 7000zl last month, hurrah) which should be more than enough to pay your way. Taking 600 with you for the summer should be fine, but if youre going to be doing ANY work you should get paid for it - paying someone to employ you just says SCAM SCAM SCAM to me. Most teachers only do 5 hours a day. Think about it. 25 hours a week, 40zl an hour = 4000zl a month. If youre getting less that 35zl an hour, dont even bother.

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

I also did camp america, if youve ehard of it, prob have. I paid roughly 400 for that and turned out to be best experience in my life, although the only best bits were working with polish/russian ect and had overall a huge laugh over their, plus when finished visited washington, virginia beach, new york, boston , buffalo (dive hole lol) niagra falls ect u get the picture.

paying for the 8 week teaching english program might seem a scam but its the only one i can think of thats guaranteeing you 8 weeks of work with accommodation with3 meals a day and your helping out kids/teens whom need help ect. By all means if i didnt need this i wouldnt bother but no way am i walking into a live paid classroom full of eager stduents with no experuience, it smeels like disaster lol qualified or not experience is invaluable, despite I TO I offer with job only needing degree, online diploma and EU passport

Alex Shulgin · Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 553

Grrrmachine · Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 265 Location: Warsaw, Poland

Does anyone else get itchy fists when they read "lol" in a forum?

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

perfect Englsh is not exactly on my important list when typing. People get the idea.

According to I TO I a online TEFL is enough, although id never go abroad with online TEFL without 4 week course. China for some reason dont ask for it as much as Europe. Western Europe is totally off my list it's just eastern europe and Asia.

By the way I did apply for a CELTA course in Poland but got told degree needed before i could do this course hence why doing a different provider and accred. They say a-levels are enough but msot prefer degrees, in any subject/pass rate.

Its no big deal to me about CELTA/TRINITY. I'll still be just as employable with or without this piece of paper.

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

I TO I saying online TEFL is enough for their placement service that is;

All in all i'll have this when getting a TEFL job in Poalnd;

Qualifications;

GCSE
A-LEVELS
University degree BA applied criminology with pyschology
4 week TESOL course 150 hours 6 hours teaching practice accred by college of teachers
online TEFL
3 distance TEFL certificates as added extra
8 weeks teaching English experience
EU passport
Native Speaker, Born in Great London. in Great Britain
camp america for 9 weeks inj new york state, long island

Just thought id add everything else whether its relevant or not

I have not told anyone my location in Poland yet. It is TORUN, Poland, i AINT bothering with Warsaw Krakow ect

Alex Shulgin · Joined: 20 Jul 2003 Posts: 553

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

Regarding about the CELTA. Yeh I wont be as good as someone with a CELTA I admit that but I can still get a job as a TEFL teacher without one like anothe rkind of TEFL qualification such as TESOL course which is accred byt he colleeg of teachers, plus with companies such as I TO I whom offer guaranteed jbo literally if you have degree/i to i TEFL diploma, eu passport, antive speaker ect.

I'll most likely go through them and get the job so no hard luck in me not getting one because I will, FACT!

cheeseandegg · Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 58

Any company which charges you to get a job or takes a cut of your wages (e.g. M&M) should be considered dodgy!

Even without coming to Poland you can find jobs online with this website and TEFL.com. These companies will have better reputations and conditions. 400GBP is a lot of money and even if you traveled here to look for work you wouldn't spend that amount of money in a month.

The Polish monthly minimum wage is 800zl and most employed Poles earn about 2000zl.

cheeseandegg · Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 58

Any company which charges you to get a job or takes a cut of your wages (e.g. M&M) should be considered dodgy!

Even without coming to Poland you can find jobs online with this website and TEFL.com. These companies will have better reputations and conditions. 400GBP is a lot of money and even if you traveled here to look for work you wouldn't spend that amount of money in a month.

The Polish monthly minimum wage is 800zl and most employed Poles earn about 2000zl. Rent should also cost you about 700-800zl for a small flat but expect to pay a lot more in cities like Warszawa and Szczecin.

paulmanser · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403

I TO I was recommended by CELTA tutors and CACTUS TEFL company whcih im sure you MUST of heard of.

The only thing that I dont get is that only a degree and ONLINE tefl diploma is good enough. I wont type out the details again about the contract and pay as its above.

Most ppl in poland aks for trinity/celta OR equivalent so i dont really see any MAJOR problem without having celta/trinity longs the other cert is from COT or Uk university?