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NOVA Teachers Teach for Food!
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Miyazaki



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: NOVA Teachers Teach for Food! Reply with quote

Nova Teachers Teach for Food!

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Nova teachers offer lessons for food
Friday, November 2, 2007 at 07:17 EST


TOKYO � A labor union representing teachers and staff at the failed
Nova Corp said Thursday it will set up a relief fund for the teachers
and a program whereby students can take their language lessons from
their Nova teachers in exchange for basic food items or a meal.
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yamanote senbei



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://nambufwc.org/lessons-for-food
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Maaku



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this absolutely degrading. This really will make all English teachers look bad. Many Japanese have a bad enough image of an English teacher in Japan as it is. If people are at the point, where they don't have enough money for food they should go home. Or accept a position in China or Korea.
Nova filing for bankruptcy protection didn't happen overnight. It was going on for months. People should have saw this coming in September and acted accordingly.
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Chris21



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely agree. Anyone who comes over here should at least have money for a plane ticket home in case of emergencies.
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Seeker of truth



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maaku wrote:
People should have saw this coming in September and acted accordingly.


Maybe some of those same people should study past participles too.
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Maaku



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note: This is only a website and message board. Thus, to insult one's grammar is meaningless. Shall I check all your posts for errors?

Ultimately, most of all the teachers deserved their fate. If one lives in a foreigner country for years and doesn't save any money. They simply waste on alcohol or whatnot, they deserve the repercussions.

And even your insult "Maybe some of those same people should study past participles too" is illogical. Do you mean "some of those same people" = referring to nova teachers should have studied past participles?
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's more play spot error!

Maaku wrote:
Note: This is only a website and message board. Thus, to insult one's grammar is meaningless. Shall I check all your posts for errors?

Ultimately, ?most of all the teachers deserved their fate. If one lives in a foreigner country for years and doesn't save any money. (Main clause is where?) They simply waste on alcohol or whatnot, they deserve the repercussions.

And even your insult "Maybe some of those same people should study past participles too" is illogical. Do you mean "some of those same people" = referring to nova teachers WHO should have studied past participles? (Or simply, '=Nova teachers should have studied past participles?')
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Maaku



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to even bother to insult someone with an id name of fluffyhamster. The name in itself does that.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great, we have yet another grouch on these lovely boards...
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midnightpariah



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeker of truth wrote:
Maaku wrote:
People should have saw this coming in September and acted accordingly.


Maybe some of those same people should study past participles too.


I'm surprised that you chose to point out the (all too common) past participle error rather than the comma splice, run-on sentence, and sentence fragment.

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If people are at the point, where they don't have enough money for food they should go home. Or accept a position in China or Korea.
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Maaku



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is more important? A flaw in logic or grammar?

People write on boards more akin to how they would speak in real life. Flaming someone on a message board for minor grammar mistakes is absolutely retarded. That argument has be done on numerous message boards. You people simply need to get a life.

Ultimately, another id will come and attempt to ridicule my post. So consider this my last post on this topic. If you people cared for Nova teachers, you should do something about it. I have met numerous Nova teachers in Tokyo. All of them deserved their fate. They were all aware of Nova's impending doom, but chose not to do anything.

By accepting food for English lessons or offering ridiculously low fees for hourly lessons, it affects the whole market. It sets a bad precedent for wages and how we are all perceived in Japan as English teachers.
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SueH



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are so prepared to be unsympathetically critical of other people you can hardly complain at similar treatment.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maaku wrote:
What is more important? A flaw in logic or grammar?

People write on boards more akin to how they would speak in real life. Flaming someone on a message board for minor grammar mistakes is absolutely retarded. That argument has be done on numerous message boards. You people simply need to get a life.

Ultimately, another id will come and attempt to ridicule my post. So consider this my last post on this topic. If you people cared for Nova teachers, you should do something about it. I have met numerous Nova teachers in Tokyo. All of them deserved their fate. They were all aware of Nova's impending doom, but chose not to do anything.

By accepting food for English lessons or offering ridiculously low fees for hourly lessons, it affects the whole market. It sets a bad precedent for wages and how we are all perceived in Japan as English teachers.


Apart from the 'cared...should' bit, that was pretty eloquent. Move on up to English 201! Yey! Razz Wink
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Dr. Gibbons



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's be happiness together people.

All the prescriptivists with their grammar rules! I say be free!

Maybe the NOVA people want to stay in Japan and are looking for other opportunity. Anyone who lives in Japan will agree that language instruction is definately needed! Maybe they just need something to tide them over until things pick up for them.

There's a whole country outside of Tokyo too. The air is clean and the cost of living is very low.
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all teach for food ..don't we?
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