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avolkiteshvara



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Dress attire Reply with quote

Curious which countries are more lax and which more stringent on dress attire.

I hate dressing up and would like to avoid this if at all possible. But I also realize a certain "professionalism" is created by wearing slax and a dress shirt.

Any place I can wear shorts to teach?
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a gym, maybe.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the non-Western world places great emphasis on personal grooming and dress.

When I lived in Africa is was not unusual to see someone come out of a mud hut - in a three piece suit!

Get used to the idea that when you go overseas, you'll have to play by their rules. It is really only our culture that de-emphasizes dress standards and goes for the "Rebel Billionaire" look.
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Moore



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spain is very relaxed dress-wise. In one school where I went for an interview there was a sign asking teachers to try to avoid wearing shorts and sandals to business classes.
It's a lot nicer like this after having to dress up like a monkey for ages in Asia and Paris. There's nothing sadder than the sight of a financially challenged teacher dressed in a cheap and shabby parody of a businessman's outfit sticking out like a sore thumb on the metro.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

North American colleges. Take a look how shabbily dressed they are. I too like to be pretty casual but I was often embarrassed how far some of my colleagues took it.
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expatben



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In China, I was told not to dress up too much as it scars the the students.
Spain was fairly casual. Poland on the other hand was incredibly strict.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexico can be fairly formal, but not overly so. Still, teaching in shorts is out.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expatben wrote:
In China, I was told not to dress up too much as it scars the the students.


Funny ... I thought dressing in too little would be more likely to scar them ...
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Mexico can be fairly formal, but not overly so. Still, teaching in shorts is out.

Out here on the coast in my school, a small minority of teachers dress in Bermudas. Normally I think it looks just a little too relaxed, but even I've done it during the hottest time of the year.
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Sonnet



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if this sounds boring, but I don't think I'd have much respect if any of my language teachers had ever showed up in shorts. It looks equally daft if you overdress, but most places seem to settle for decently smart dress; shirt & trousers, basically.

I've never worked anywhere where you could teach in shorts, but I've only worked in Germany & China & hence don't know everything Smile
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonnet wrote:
I don't think I'd have much respect if any of my language teachers had ever showed up in shorts.
What if it was 35c (about 95f) in the shade and the humidity was about 95%?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
Sonnet wrote:
I don't think I'd have much respect if any of my language teachers had ever showed up in shorts.
What if it was 35c (about 95f) in the shade and the humidity was about 95%?


I could never get away with shorts while teaching in Acapulco. I would wear very light cotton pants and a light short sleeve shirt, like most of the locals.

I did teach one class in a pool, in waist-deep water once. It proved refreshing, though distracting. Cocoloco in one hand, slightly wet textbook in the other. Very Happy
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think I'd have much respect if any of my language teachers had ever showed up in shorts.
What if it was 35c (about 95f) in the shade and the humidity was about 95%?


That would be cool for summer in Guayaquil. I still was wearing a tie when I was there last month...

I guess that for teaching, I wouldn't insist on the tie- but shorts and sandals would be a big no no. After all, the students who I met there were almost all wearing suits for their work.

I'm not hardcore on dress related issues, but I'm aware that we're in a professional that many people don't think is a profession. If you want to go to work dressed for the beach, it's a little hard to convince people that you really belong in the classroom.

Justin
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we should wear military-style attire, that way we'd have more of a "licence" to e.g. put Al Pacino-in-Scent-of-a-Woman-style chokeholds etc on irritating students; also, such clothing is very absorbent, handy for not only sweat but blood and tears too.Very Happy
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're teaching kids, shorts and a t-shirt make more sense. It really depends on the perception of your students. I personally am not worried about what my teacher wears, more about how he teaches and how he helps me to learn. If on the other hand, he stinks of alcohol, or has BO, well..
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