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ghostdog



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: working in Yangon or Mandalay Reply with quote

Does anyone have any information on any schools worth working for in either Yangon or Mandalay? I have just escaped from a very pleasant place that was unfortunately run by cowboys but would like to consider staying in the country longer if I could find something suitable. (Unfortunately, I have to work to live, so I can't consider any volunteer positions at this point.) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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cameron.mayo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I haven't but I would be interested to hear about your experience?
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teflersanonymous



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: working in yangon.... Reply with quote

what happened to ethics? if we don't boycott burma, how can we condemn the capitalists and governments that deal with that evil regime?
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cameron.mayo



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I'm guessing your from the USA.
How can any of us look down the nose of other regimes with the shite that goes on in our own countries 'nuff said.

Why should we deprive ourselves b/c of shite politics (both intra and inter). I say go and experience the culture if you so desire.
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teflersanonymous



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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: working in yangon.. Reply with quote

well, you guessed wrong but then, you probably are wrong in most things. my country of origin is not relevant. i personally think that the axis of evil is more likely usa/uk/oz than the one bush wants us to fear.... however, if ever my country were taken over by unashamed murderers and thieves, i hope that there would not be too many people like you finding an excuse to deal with them. i can visit opposition leaders in my country, however flawed our "system" may be.
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cameron.mayo



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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: working in yangon.. Reply with quote

teflersanonymous wrote:
i can visit opposition leaders in my country, however flawed our "system" may be.


If you're boycotting Burma why don't you boycott your own country, there's more laughable politics going on there.

The don't go to Burma 'soapboxing' is alittle hypocritical. By visiting Burma you can slip some 'coin' to people who need your tourist $. By you not going there they miss out on your much needed tourist dollar, just b/c you think its cool to boycott the junta.

Please explain....
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Serious_Fun



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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: working in yangon.. Reply with quote

cameron.mayo wrote:
...snip...

The don't go to Burma 'soapboxing' is alittle hypocritical. By visiting Burma you can slip some 'coin' to people who need your tourist $. By you not going there they miss out on your much needed tourist dollar, just b/c you think its cool to boycott the junta.


My opinion:

This is a topic that I have been grappling with for a while...a few weeks ago I attended the Annual General Meeting of Amnesty International and at a small seminar on Burma/Myanmar I asked the presenter (an old SE Asia hand experienced with Burma) a similar question: If I visit Burma wouldn't that help to spread a few coins and also let the locals know that the "outside world" has not forgotten about the situation there?

The response which I got was: that by visiting Burma I would help strengthen the junta (or is it now a monarchy with a "royal" capital in Pyinmana? Wink ) with my tourist coins and give it legitimacy. This is the argument given by most human rights groups, such as:

http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/aboutburma/tourism.html

To be honest, I am still unsure...I personally think that I would show solidarity with the average Burmese by going there and just walking/eating/etc. However I would be horrified to find out that a taxi driver with whom I had spoken was arrested for contact with a "Westerner". Crying or Very sad

Amy Tan has a new novel called Saving Fish from Drowning that I have heard deals with this tourism issue.

well... I just wanted to chime in. Cool
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teflersanonymous



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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: working in yangon Reply with quote

nice piece or calm and decent thinking [seriousfun]. makes me feel ashamed of being ready to write a vitriolic response to the person who - i am sure - has no idea what country they want me to be ashamed of and who presumes to know better than "the lady" what the people of burma need.

on another forum i was told that i was vietnamese, presumably because i had objected to some of the "slagging" of the vietnamese on the site. there are 80 million plus and a lot of them struck me as pretty good people. perhaps the bored correspondents could pass a few hours trying to guess my nationality. two down, only a few score to go!
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cameron.mayo



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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beg pardon, so as not to hurt anyones feelings, this is directed at no-one:

I find it laughable that people from other countires (mostly the west) think they know what is best for countries like Burma i.e, lets boycott them b/c of the Junta, when, the *beep* that's going down in their own countries is just as bad if not worse...
It's the case of the Neighbour A, with a house full of problems leaning over the back fence suggesting Neighbour B needs to clean up his backyard...

Nuff said.
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guilao



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Not bad at all . . . Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind working for a bunch of cowboys. Twisted Evil
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Dr Disco



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any word on actual work in Myanmar? Just curious, as no one has mentioned it for a while.

I have had a few people contact me about non-teaching positions, but they wouldn't start until 2007.

Food for thought: Re: economic boycotts..History professors and military / UN / US embassy people that I've mentioned this to say that economic sanctions only breed a lathargic and complacent society, thus, making an argument for economic and social engagment. Even many people in Myanmar that are "pro-democracy" agree with this, and thus want more business and dealings with the outside world. After all, if you can't eat, you probably won't have the energy to make political change, esp. while your own relatives / kids are starving.

What these "professionals" have mentioned seems to be parallel to my experiences traveling / living in places that have had economic sanctions on them. Has anyone experienced otherwise? Just curiious, as it seems difficult to take a firm position considering all the different view points.
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