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ghostdog
Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 119 Location: Wherever the sun doesn't shine
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: working in Yangon or Mandalay |
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Does anyone have any information on any schools worth working for in either Yangon or Mandalay? I have just escaped from a very pleasant place that was unfortunately run by cowboys but would like to consider staying in the country longer if I could find something suitable. (Unfortunately, I have to work to live, so I can't consider any volunteer positions at this point.) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
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cameron.mayo
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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No I haven't but I would be interested to hear about your experience? |
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teflersanonymous
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: working in yangon.... |
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what happened to ethics? if we don't boycott burma, how can we condemn the capitalists and governments that deal with that evil regime? |
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cameron.mayo
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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^ I'm guessing your from the USA.
How can any of us look down the nose of other regimes with the shite that goes on in our own countries 'nuff said.
Why should we deprive ourselves b/c of shite politics (both intra and inter). I say go and experience the culture if you so desire. |
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teflersanonymous
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: working in yangon.. |
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well, you guessed wrong but then, you probably are wrong in most things. my country of origin is not relevant. i personally think that the axis of evil is more likely usa/uk/oz than the one bush wants us to fear.... however, if ever my country were taken over by unashamed murderers and thieves, i hope that there would not be too many people like you finding an excuse to deal with them. i can visit opposition leaders in my country, however flawed our "system" may be. |
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cameron.mayo
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: working in yangon.. |
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teflersanonymous wrote: |
i can visit opposition leaders in my country, however flawed our "system" may be. |
If you're boycotting Burma why don't you boycott your own country, there's more laughable politics going on there.
The don't go to Burma 'soapboxing' is alittle hypocritical. By visiting Burma you can slip some 'coin' to people who need your tourist $. By you not going there they miss out on your much needed tourist dollar, just b/c you think its cool to boycott the junta.
Please explain.... |
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Serious_Fun

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1171 Location: terra incognita
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: working in yangon.. |
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cameron.mayo wrote: |
...snip...
The don't go to Burma 'soapboxing' is alittle hypocritical. By visiting Burma you can slip some 'coin' to people who need your tourist $. By you not going there they miss out on your much needed tourist dollar, just b/c you think its cool to boycott the junta. |
My opinion:
This is a topic that I have been grappling with for a while...a few weeks ago I attended the Annual General Meeting of Amnesty International and at a small seminar on Burma/Myanmar I asked the presenter (an old SE Asia hand experienced with Burma) a similar question: If I visit Burma wouldn't that help to spread a few coins and also let the locals know that the "outside world" has not forgotten about the situation there?
The response which I got was: that by visiting Burma I would help strengthen the junta (or is it now a monarchy with a "royal" capital in Pyinmana? ) with my tourist coins and give it legitimacy. This is the argument given by most human rights groups, such as:
http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/aboutburma/tourism.html
To be honest, I am still unsure...I personally think that I would show solidarity with the average Burmese by going there and just walking/eating/etc. However I would be horrified to find out that a taxi driver with whom I had spoken was arrested for contact with a "Westerner".
Amy Tan has a new novel called Saving Fish from Drowning that I have heard deals with this tourism issue.
well... I just wanted to chime in.  |
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teflersanonymous
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: working in yangon |
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nice piece or calm and decent thinking [seriousfun]. makes me feel ashamed of being ready to write a vitriolic response to the person who - i am sure - has no idea what country they want me to be ashamed of and who presumes to know better than "the lady" what the people of burma need.
on another forum i was told that i was vietnamese, presumably because i had objected to some of the "slagging" of the vietnamese on the site. there are 80 million plus and a lot of them struck me as pretty good people. perhaps the bored correspondents could pass a few hours trying to guess my nationality. two down, only a few score to go! |
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cameron.mayo
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Beg pardon, so as not to hurt anyones feelings, this is directed at no-one:
I find it laughable that people from other countires (mostly the west) think they know what is best for countries like Burma i.e, lets boycott them b/c of the Junta, when, the *beep* that's going down in their own countries is just as bad if not worse...
It's the case of the Neighbour A, with a house full of problems leaning over the back fence suggesting Neighbour B needs to clean up his backyard...
Nuff said. |
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guilao

Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Location: At-large
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: Not bad at all . . . |
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I wouldn't mind working for a bunch of cowboys.  |
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Dr Disco
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 51 Location: wandering around town
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Any word on actual work in Myanmar? Just curious, as no one has mentioned it for a while.
I have had a few people contact me about non-teaching positions, but they wouldn't start until 2007.
Food for thought: Re: economic boycotts..History professors and military / UN / US embassy people that I've mentioned this to say that economic sanctions only breed a lathargic and complacent society, thus, making an argument for economic and social engagment. Even many people in Myanmar that are "pro-democracy" agree with this, and thus want more business and dealings with the outside world. After all, if you can't eat, you probably won't have the energy to make political change, esp. while your own relatives / kids are starving.
What these "professionals" have mentioned seems to be parallel to my experiences traveling / living in places that have had economic sanctions on them. Has anyone experienced otherwise? Just curiious, as it seems difficult to take a firm position considering all the different view points. |
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