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What is the punishment for breaking a TEFL contract?
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: What is the punishment for breaking a TEFL contract? Reply with quote

Not that I am going to I just want to know where I stand.

I know it may differ for certain countries but take China/Poland/South Korea for example.
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expatben



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm well... it really depends on the contract. Every contract will have different clauses. I mean the contract I signed said if I quit then I have to pay for the schools new teacher until the course ends. In China it was that they could fine me $2000US for leaving-which I did and they diddn't.
Basically it usually envolves you paying them money.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:39 am    Post subject: What is the punishment for breaking a TEFL contract? Reply with quote

A job in a different school ...
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A job in a different school ..............

haha Laughing
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of these TEFL outfits still get away with conning newbies into thinking that their pieces of paper are real contracts.

What is the punishment, do a runner and nobody can catch you. Of course your new outfit is probably going to be no better but after a few years you learn that and either put up with a less bad outfit or get out of TEFL and get a real job.
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get out of TEFL and get a real job.



oooooooo, I feel a sparky convo coming up.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulmanser wrote:
get out of TEFL and get a real job.


hehe. Went to an information session the other day at Hamline University, a local private college. I left with the impression that it was a school with wonderful facilities and dedicated faculty.

Here's the kicker, though. A masters degree in teaching with ESL licensure would take a minimum of 2-2.5 years at about $30k in tuition. They estimated that the starting pay for ESL in Minnesota is $28k/yr.

How does that math work out for you? I'm left with the impression that it is a field for people with rich parents, spouses, or Mother Theresa-types that can try to repay a student loan on $15/hr.

I'm planning to attend there, but in the EFL program...the public school licensure track looks rather insane.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...amongst those for whom it is a field:

backpackers
nutters
those who cannot get jobs in their countries with their irrelevant degrees
drunks
drifters
those married to foreigners
the unqualified
the unemployable elsewhere
etc.
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

I think that a BA degree and a TEFL cert should/normally is enough to start work.

They can't ask for more than that.

I certainly will not be taking a masters degree that's for sure. Only a TEFL Diploma at most.

I mean say 600 quid a month, yet you have a student loan ect.

How does this; you have a 17 000 quid student loan debt fresh from university. You pay nothing back until you earn at LEAST 15 000 a year.

After 25 years, whether you pay zero or all of it abck it gets cleared none the less. If you die it gets cleared also.


What if I work abroad as a TEFL teacher for 25 years? Do I still get pinned?

And no I won't be clearing it before I leave, I would be old and grey by then.

LOL.
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep seeing this famous sentence on this forum, prob from TROLLS.

Should I get a job or TEFL abroad?

lol.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEFL is just too easy to get into and then too difficult to get out of if you stay in it more than say, ten years.

Julian Edge a TEFL academic (sic) who used to work at Aston University put it something like this:

TEFL sucks you in when you are young and have no dependants and then spits you out when you are older and have dependants.
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What 's your story thrifty?
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

11 years and want to go home but cannot afford to
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?

Fear of not finding a job, setting yourself up with accommodation when back in your country, been abroad too long.

Thousands of questions regarding that.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all three
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