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Mysterious Mark



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Deposits Reply with quote

It's been stated previously on this forum that it's illegal for Chinese employers to take or withhold deposits from employees.

Can anyone back up this claim with evidence?

Even if it's legal, there are non-legal arguments against it. Employers may say that they need protection against employees who can't be trusted, and they may tell stories of being cheated/robbed/left in the cold by employees in the past. The problems with that argument are that EFL teachers get cheated by their employers or agents every day in China, and there's a long standing tradition around the world of employees providing references to attest to their credibility and trustworthiness. It's also more difficult for an employee than an employer to work through the Chinese legal system in the event of a dispute about the refunding of a deposit.

Even if an employer repays all deposits on time, they're still for the employer's benefit and at the employees' expense, unless the employer pays the employees interest on their deposits.

Chinese EFL employers usually have a form of deposit anyway, namely the end-of-contract bonus/airfare reimbursement.

Employees rarely ask for or receive any sort of deposit from their employers. They may at times receive advances on their salaries, but these are likely to be for work already performed, not for work yet to be performed.
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Super Mario



Joined: 27 May 2005
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Location: Australia, previously China

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy. Each month, go to an ATM, withdraw your salary, put it under your matress.
As for interest, worldwide rates on everyday accounts don't even equal inflation.
You can get accounts that pay up to 5.5% if you look around.
I had no problems at all with my salary being paid into an account, which I accessed by ATM or over the counter, identical in fact to the way I'm paid here at home. I always find it ironical that people complain about China's "backwardness", but also China adopting Western banking practices!
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pandasteak



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

or go get a second bank account
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tony lee



Joined: 03 Apr 2004
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chinese EFL employers usually have a form of deposit anyway, namely the end-of-contract bonus/airfare reimbursement.


During my brief association with CSI, I corrected a lot of the English on the web site (still to be updated as you would expect) and one of the documents was an original wording of the official contract. This stated that a foreign expert had to post a $500US bond as part of the application process and the reason for the bond was to ensure compliance with certain provisions of the contract. In leiu of the cash, the teacher could elect to pay the airfare and wait to the end of the contract to be refunded.

I think the airfare provision has now been accepted as fairly universal and the idea of an actual bond has been ignored.
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