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voodoochild
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canuck
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 Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Blacklist Interac |
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Global Village International Preschool
President: Joe Menezes
Problem: Violation of Labour Standards Law, Article 20 - Unpaid Dismissal Notice allowance (305,288 yen)
Comment: Ibaraki Labour Standards Office gave an order to Menezes to pay the allowance on 19 February 2003. Menezes refused, and has refused all demands from the union.
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Why can't the union, on something that has been going on since 2003, get a member his backpay? Or has this been resolved? I would like to know more background information on this. Paul? Wang? Isn't one of the best things about being part of the union is having the 900 pound gorilla on your side, threatening a lawsuit, and if the school refuses, having the union follow through? |
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canuck
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JimDunlop2
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canuck: Please bring back the Miss Universe avatar. I like sumo as much as the next guy, but a bespectacled rikishi is just somehow... wrong...  |
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shadowsinner
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| ok, i've heard a lot of bad rep for this company interac now... but what the heck are they? are they an eikaiwa? but on some forums they sounded like some recruitment company for schools? |
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luckyloser700
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Interac is a company that hires ALT's (Assistant Language Teachers) to work in public schools. ALT's assist Japanese English teachers at the high school and junior high school levels and teach solo at the elementary school level. JET's ALT's make more money and get a few perks. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: Re: Blacklist Interac |
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| canuck wrote: |
| Why can't the union, on something that has been going on since 2003, get a member his backpay? Or has this been resolved? I would like to know more background information on this. Paul? Wang? Isn't one of the best things about being part of the union is having the 900 pound gorilla on your side, threatening a lawsuit, and if the school refuses, having the union follow through? |
Wangtesol, please respond. If it were about illegal companies or health care, you would be in the thread in a second. This is about the union. Care to comment? |
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angrysoba
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul, you're usually an "authority" on these things, what do you say about it? Aren't you a senior member of the union? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul, you're usually an "authority" on these things, what do you say about it? Aren't you a senior member of the union? |
Im not a senior member of anything. I'm a dues paying member and no more. Im not even on the general executive or on any elected position within the union.
I will usually give my two cents worth on my interpretation of Japanese labor laws as they are written, not on whether the union should get involved in every dispute that comes along or because someone gets on a soapbox on it on ESLcafe. Interac for that matter is in the conversation schools chapter, while i belong to schools and colleges chapter that deals with universities and high schools, and is a separate unit. I have nothing to do with eikaiwa disputes. I dont even know if GU has any Interac members.
My two cents worth, ( though i dont speak with any authority here)
The union in Osaka is run as a democratic organisation, where executive are elected and disputes will be voted on by the body at large, and the union body as a whole or its elected representatives will decide whether and how to take action at its general meetings.
If there are no employees of Interac who belong to the union and have not formed a chapter and and are not willing to confront their employers or file a labor claim there is not much the union can do. The union is made up of its members, and is not a fire brigade or a posse that puts out forest fires. If there is indeed an Interac chapter and they are actually in negotiations with the company then that is the best they can do. Do you simply expect to hold the union's coat while they fight your battles for you? How many Interac teachers are getting shot at here and sticking their necks out to be heard? Where are the Interac teachers who are demanding action?
I'm not familiar with the Interac dispute so I can't really comment. I will add that general union and Nambu and Fukuoka are separate but affiliated unions. The General union in Osaka has its own executive committee elected by members.
I really have no idea what wangTesol is on about half the time and it sounds like a personal axe to grind, which is not what the union is all about. |
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yamanote senbei
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Blacklist Interac |
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| canuck wrote: |
| Why can't the union, on something that has been going on since 2003, get a member his backpay? Or has this been resolved? I would like to know more background information on this. |
Why don't you give them a call and ask them, Canuck. It might have something to do with Global Village being in Ibaraki-ken and the General Union being in Osaka. On the other hand, Global Village might be nearby in Ibaraki-shi. The person with the dispute might have moved to another area of Japan, left the country or even died before it could be resolved.
Ask the people with the beef.
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Blacklist Interac |
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| yamanote senbei wrote: |
| canuck wrote: |
| Why can't the union, on something that has been going on since 2003, get a member his backpay? Or has this been resolved? I would like to know more background information on this. |
Why don't you give them a call and ask them, Canuck. It might have something to do with Global Village being in Ibaraki-ken and the General Union being in Osaka. On the other hand, Global Village might be nearby in Ibaraki-shi. The person with the dispute might have moved to another area of Japan, left the country or even died before it could be resolved.
Ask the people with the beef.
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The closest union would be the Nambu union in Tokyo, headed by Louis Carlet. Maybe they have chapter members in Ibaraki or deal with companies there.
If they are no current Interac union members there is little the union can and will do. |
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yamanote senbei
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Blacklist Interac |
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The blacklist is on the General Union site on not on the Tokyo Nambu one, so my guess is that the company is in Ibaraki City (Osaka Prefecture), and not Ibaraki Prefecture.
Call both to make sure anyway, Canuck. |
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freeman
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| I am rather surprised that Interac is not on the blacklist. They are a terrible company. People who work at Head office are real pricks and they cut your salary. |
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ironopolis
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I can't speak for canuck, but I suspect that the reason behind his question about this guy not having got the pay owed some 3 years later was the apparent indication that joining a union if you're working for a school like this Global Village place doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference to the outcome of such a case. If the teacher is owed 300,000yen and hasn't seen any of it, I can't imagine the school being put on a union blacklist is going to soothe the poor barsted a great deal.
So whilst an answer of "er, why don't you find out yourself" is not exactly unexpected, it might be more helpful if anyone familiar with union matters could give us any info on how typical or not the above case is; if someone, who's joined the union, working for a school gets fired and is owed money, how likely is it the union will be able to help them get their money back? |
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