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Kleetus



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 12
Location: Mie, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: nova apartment Reply with quote

My girlfriend and I have accepted positions to start with Nova in August. (no clue where yet...) I'm starting to accept the fact that Nova is really ripping us off by charging us each a full amount of rent on a one bedroom apartment, though I've read it's pretty impossible to find a place on your own (especially in the first year). What other bills can we expect to pay beyond the rent...?

-internet? (I'm assuming high-speed is available almost anywhere these days)

-gym membership?

-cell phone?

Also, what's the deal with Nova paying for transportation, how does the reimbursment process work?

I understand that prices are going to be different everywhere, but if someone could help me out with some averages, that would be great. I'm pretty sure that we'll be placed in Osaka, Yokohama or Fukuoka, based on what they told us at the interview.

Thanks
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ejectseat



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 21
Location: Fukuoka, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same boat, going solo and starting in July. I'm probably going to hold off on getting a phone for as long as possible, and going computerless as well.

Gym memberships look like their going to be pretty expensive based off of what was said in the "karate lessons" thread.

Cell phones? NOVA is going to try to push their contract deal phone company on you. There will be a bunch of people at the airport trying to get you to buy one also, avoid them. Wait till you get there, and find out from some co-workers. You and your girl are going to be able to get a "family" plan, and will save some lootcakes...

I'm curious about the NOVA transport reimbursement deal too. I believe I read on here that they pay for a month at a time, and you have so limited rides.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: nova apartment Reply with quote

Kleetus wrote:
My girlfriend and I have accepted positions to start with Nova in August. (no clue where yet...) I'm starting to accept the fact that Nova is really ripping us off by charging us each a full amount of rent on a one bedroom apartment, though I've read it's pretty impossible to find a place on your own (especially in the first year). What other bills can we expect to pay beyond the rent...?


If they are ripping you off expect to fork out 4-5 rent for key money, agents fees and 'reikin'. Apartments here are generally empty when you move in. With NOVA you walk into a fully furnished apartment and pay no key money. Paying person is expensive, but its better than paying thousands of dollars before you move into a place. Once you have got set up then you can look for your own apartment. Usually you need a guarantor or you can look for a place at a gaijin hostel.


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-internet? (I'm assuming high-speed is available almost anywhere these days)


I have Yahoo BB and pay about 4,000 yen a month for a broadband connection.

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-gym membership?


Cost depend on when you want to use the gym as you can get night time or weekend memberships or all-day usage. Expect to pay a joining fee, monthly membership and a fee when you go to the gym.

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-cell phone?


The actual handset you can buy cheaply but you pay for phone charges. I spend about 9,000 yen a month for two phones, for me and my wife.


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Also, what's the deal with Nova paying for transportation, how does the reimbursment process work?


Employers here pay for commuting expenses, though i dont know if NOVA pays before or after you use it. best idea is to buy a commuting pass and show NOVA so they can re-imburse your travelling costs. A pass you can also use on your days off.

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I understand that prices are going to be different everywhere, but if someone could help me out with some averages, that would be great. I'm pretty sure that we'll be placed in Osaka, Yokohama or Fukuoka, based on what they told us at the interview.



Here is a link to consumer prices in Tokyo

http://www.pricechecktokyo.com
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm starting to accept the fact that Nova is really ripping us off by charging us each a full amount of rent on a one bedroom apartment

Just remember that that 70,000 yen/month also includes utilities, and as Paul wrote, if you go on your own, you will have to pay key money and furnish the apartment by yourselves. That means furnishing everything from fridge, washing machine, and stove, to curtains, bedding, kitchen utensils, and even light fixtures.
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
Posts: 1921
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had friends work at NOVA.

You pay for your apartment, but don't have to worry about the utilities etc. Often you are with roommates. You avoid the setup costs, but pay a little more rent or the same as if you were on your own, but have a couple extra bodies in the house.

For example, you might share a three bedroom place, each paying 60,000 yen. However, for the same size place, three people might only have to pay 110,00 a month etc. The positive side is that you can give a months notice at anytime and leave. They take the rent at the end of the month, and if you rent on your own, you have to pay at the beginning of the month. This is quite a hit when/if you move out, making it more difficult financially, which is why many people end of staying in their apartments for a while. My suggestion is to blast the aircon non stop during the summer because it's free...and it's hot and humid around Japan.

NOVA has a deal with the phone companies and get a cut signing you up. It's the same with the airplane tickets. Basically, they try to make money on everything. The bonus is that they try to make it easy. NOVA will not pay for your phone bills.

Transportation is paid by your employer. This is at the end of the month typically. The way the train system works is that you pay per ride. Once you leave the ticket gates, your ticket is gone. However, you can buy a monthly pass, and use the trains on the route you by. However, your company will only pay for the route from you house to your work location.

Remember, you also get paid at the end of the month, once a month. So, depending on when you arrive, you work for a month or more (depending on when the pay period cut off is) and get paid the following month. It could be 2.5 months before you see any money. This is why NOVA also offers loans to people.

All this information was available if you used the search fuction too. There is a lot of information on NOVA. Good luck guys....and I'd start looking for another job as soon as you're comfortable here.
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ejectseat



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 21
Location: Fukuoka, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TWO AND A HALF MONTHS BEFORE THE 1ST CHECK! holy hell. Should be interesting...
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ejectseat wrote:
TWO AND A HALF MONTHS BEFORE THE 1ST CHECK! holy hell. Should be interesting...


He probably means FULL paycheck. The first two months you are on a probation income and if you take the loan they will take out the repayments. Its likely you will be left with very little at the end of the month.