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barry3000



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Location: China, Guangdong,Foshan, Da Li

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: return airfare Reply with quote

a new teacher came to china to teach in a kindergarten, she came for a six month contract and initially it would seem that the contract said return airfare would be reimbursed now they only want to reimburse half for a six month deal... has anyone ever heard of or had this experience before? I have spoken to the person who told her she would only get half for six months and I explained that to a westerner it doesn't matter how long you come for 6 days, 6 months, 6 years we would expect a full return airfare... any thoughts?
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jester



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's is fairly standard. 6 months - one way, 1year - return. They probably meant airfare to "return" home.
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read your friends contract? It should state exactly how much airfare she should receive.

Normally for a 1 year contract you would get a full round trip. 6 months, then that becomes a one way. All of these details should have been negotiated and agreed to before your friend came to China. If your friend has a valid contract and the school is legit, she can go to the Foreign affairs office in the city who would probably aid her. Though if she has been working illegaly, she doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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jester



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's exactly what I said, Opinion.
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fruitcake,

I happened to be writing that at the same time you were swatting flies from your keyboard.
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barry3000



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes but why should that be... whatever way she is having to go back home why should she have to fund half of it herself... they asked her to come here... didn't they? she is legit has full work permit and z visa fromthe school
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acwilliams



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes but why should that be... whatever way she is having to go back home why should she have to fund half of it herself... they asked her to come here... didn't they? she is legit has full work permit and z visa fromthe school


Look at it from the school's point of view for a moment - they don't want to pay two sets of outward and return tickets in one year (one set for your friend, one set for her replacement).
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

barry3000 wrote:
yes but why should that be... whatever way she is having to go back home why should she have to fund half of it herself... they asked her to come here... didn't they? she is legit has full work permit and z visa fromthe school


Why should it be any other way? She signed the contract, she agreed to the terms. If she doesn't like it there is no point to complain now, she should have complained before signing.

Many countries do not offer any airfare at all.
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jester



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is crass - brace, brace.
The flies are on my buckets of food, actually.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: return airfare Reply with quote

barry3000 wrote:
she came for a six month contract and initially it would seem that the contract said return airfare would be reimbursed now they only want to reimburse half for a six month deal...


Do we know what the contract stated in this regard? I am unclear what you mean by 'it would seem'. Does that mean that the teacher in question thought that she was entitled to it? Or does it mean that the contract was misleading or ambiguous?

I think that sometimes contracts are ambiguous when it comes to airline ticket reimbursement. I have seen contracts that state the provision of 'a return ticket' which to me means a ticket here and back (return). When you look at the Chinese though they are referring to the return portion of the journey only. If you think of it in Chinese terms then you can certainly understand the confusion from their point of view. In Chinese a two way return ticket would be called a lai hui piao (which literally means a come return ticket). So it seems obvious to them perhaps that as you have already come here (lai) you only need to return (hui) so you only need a return ticket! Rolling Eyes And therein lies the confusion that leads to misunderstandings.

As others have pointed out however the standard deal is a one way ticket (either here or back home) for a six month contract, and a two way (return ticket) for a twelve month contract.

This is definitely something that is worth confirming with the school when considering a contract.
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