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paulmanser
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: Which country has the most demanding students? |
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Is it Poland?
Demanding as in ask the most intelligent questions, give you a run for your money basically. |
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Super Frank
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:05 am Post subject: |
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I don't know.
Where are you from? |
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paulmanser
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 403
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Birth place/current location wise London, United Kingdom. Will be going to Poland for TEFL career. |
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Super Frank
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: |
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We can rule the UK out then. |
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paulmanser
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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We can name UK as the most demanding for badly behaved students. |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Of the 8 or 10 nationalities I've taught,
I'd have to vote for Russians.
They enjoy challenging their teachers and asking
really hard questions to see if you're up to the task.
As people, they tend to be analytical rather than emotional,
so they generally care less about what the right answer is,
and more about why it is or was the right answer.
A good thing in hindsight ...
since it forced me to sharpen my skills.
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thelmadatter
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1212 Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: russians and mexicans |
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I think I would enjoy teaching Russians as I, too, like to know "why" something is correct, even if it isn't a logical reason but a historical one. And many of English's idiosyncracies are due to history. (I happen to be a wealth of fairly useless knowledge about language oddities, esp. in English )
The way Mexico can be very demanding is that it too often seems that both students AND adminstration want that YOU to make sure that the students pass (whether they do well or not) but then you CAN'T cheat either! Talk about a rock and a hard place (or in Spanish a sword and a wall).
Fortunately, they need me enough that no one ever directly tries to get me to pass undeserving students and if they did, I would tell them where to go. Unfortunately, not all teachers here have that luxury. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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I also have found Russian students a real challenge to teach. They are always right and you are wrong. You must come prepared and explain any and everything you teach. I also found defending the English language. This is in complete opposite to the Japanese students I know teach. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Teaching only Japanese students, I have a limited scope, but I'd have to say it can be very demanding.
They are used to the teacher dominating the classroom, so it is hard to get them to speak, volunteer answers, or even come up with simple replies even when you tell them bad grammar is ok. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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I've only taught Mexicans, Koreans, and one Guy from India. The Mexicans aren't demanding at all, and often a pleasure to work with. The Korean girls aren't as demanding as their mother, but the challenge is rewarding.
Outside of teaching English, Canadians have been the most demanding to teach, but again, in a good way. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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We can name UK as the most demanding for badly behaved students. |
Are you sure that UK students are the most badly behaved students in the world. I think U.S. inter-city schools could give the UK a run for its money. |
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acwilliams
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 68 Location: Now in China, soon moving on
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: |
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British schoolchildren are evil. I used to be one, so I know!!! |
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Super Frank
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 365
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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We'll have a punch up on the top field to settle the matter, last break. |
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Dragonlady

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 720 Location: Chillinfernow, Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
... and one Guy from India... |
a rather unusual name for someone from India, don't you think Guy?  |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I've taught Russians (in Korea of all places!), Taiwanese, Koreans, Saudis, Batswana (yes, that is correct!), and Thais.
Far and away - Saudis.
They tend to see you as a servant (until you forcefully correct this, of course) and will even snap their fingers to get your "service". They will argue about anything and everything. To them a misplaced comma on an exam disqualifies the whole thing (you learn quickly to NOT do that!). They will try to negotiate for even a 1/10th of a point on an exam score. Not unusual where I worked to kick people out of the classroom at least twice a semester.
My bet is that anyone who has taught in the Middle East will have similar stories.
I don't mind a student demanding that I be skilled and proficient at what I do. That is their right. But, niggling (sometimes begging!) over a 1/10th of a point .. . |
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