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Which country has the most demanding students?
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Which country has the most demanding students? Reply with quote

Is it Poland?

Demanding as in ask the most intelligent questions, give you a run for your money basically.
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Super Frank



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know.

Where are you from?
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Birth place/current location wise London, United Kingdom. Will be going to Poland for TEFL career.
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Super Frank



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can rule the UK out then.
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paulmanser



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can name UK as the most demanding for badly behaved students.
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of the 8 or 10 nationalities I've taught,

I'd have to vote for Russians.





They enjoy challenging their teachers and asking

really hard questions to see if you're up to the task.


As people, they tend to be analytical rather than emotional,

so they generally care less about what the right answer is,

and more about why it is or was the right answer.


A good thing in hindsight ...

since it forced me to sharpen my skills.








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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: russians and mexicans Reply with quote

I think I would enjoy teaching Russians as I, too, like to know "why" something is correct, even if it isn't a logical reason but a historical one. And many of English's idiosyncracies are due to history. (I happen to be a wealth of fairly useless knowledge about language oddities, esp. in English Laughing )

The way Mexico can be very demanding is that it too often seems that both students AND adminstration want that YOU to make sure that the students pass (whether they do well or not) but then you CAN'T cheat either! Talk about a rock and a hard place (or in Spanish a sword and a wall).

Fortunately, they need me enough that no one ever directly tries to get me to pass undeserving students and if they did, I would tell them where to go. Unfortunately, not all teachers here have that luxury.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have found Russian students a real challenge to teach. They are always right and you are wrong. You must come prepared and explain any and everything you teach. I also found defending the English language. This is in complete opposite to the Japanese students I know teach.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching only Japanese students, I have a limited scope, but I'd have to say it can be very demanding.

They are used to the teacher dominating the classroom, so it is hard to get them to speak, volunteer answers, or even come up with simple replies even when you tell them bad grammar is ok.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only taught Mexicans, Koreans, and one Guy from India. The Mexicans aren't demanding at all, and often a pleasure to work with. The Korean girls aren't as demanding as their mother, but the challenge is rewarding.

Outside of teaching English, Canadians have been the most demanding to teach, but again, in a good way.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We can name UK as the most demanding for badly behaved students.


Are you sure that UK students are the most badly behaved students in the world. I think U.S. inter-city schools could give the UK a run for its money.
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acwilliams



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

British schoolchildren are evil. I used to be one, so I know!!!
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Super Frank



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll have a punch up on the top field to settle the matter, last break.
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
... and one Guy from India...


a rather unusual name for someone from India, don't you think Guy? Wink
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taught Russians (in Korea of all places!), Taiwanese, Koreans, Saudis, Batswana (yes, that is correct!), and Thais.

Far and away - Saudis.

They tend to see you as a servant (until you forcefully correct this, of course) and will even snap their fingers to get your "service". They will argue about anything and everything. To them a misplaced comma on an exam disqualifies the whole thing (you learn quickly to NOT do that!). They will try to negotiate for even a 1/10th of a point on an exam score. Not unusual where I worked to kick people out of the classroom at least twice a semester.

My bet is that anyone who has taught in the Middle East will have similar stories.

I don't mind a student demanding that I be skilled and proficient at what I do. That is their right. But, niggling (sometimes begging!) over a 1/10th of a point .. .
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