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IELTS scores and schools in China

 
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johnchina



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: IELTS scores and schools in China Reply with quote

I'm new here, but I've read a lot of posting about IELTS in China. Let me get the ball rolling on another discussion with this thought. Chinese IELTS candidates get higher scores than they deserve because the BC and IDP are desperate to a) get paying Chinese students into Brit/Aussie unis and b) they know that when New TOEFL comes online, Chinese candidates will choose the easier test.
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mondrian



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: IELTS scores and schools in China Reply with quote

johnchina wrote:
I'm new here, but I've read a lot of posting about IELTS in China. Let me get the ball rolling on another discussion with this thought. Chinese IELTS candidates get higher scores than they deserve because the BC and IDP are desperate to a) get paying Chinese students into Brit/Aussie unis and b) they know that when New TOEFL comes online, Chinese candidates will choose the easier test.



No!

Under the present system, they would get the same score if they were all flown to London and took the same test there.

There are many controls in place, which are not publicised, to assure that this does happen.
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johnchina



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: I disagree Reply with quote

I think that's a little naive myself. The controls that are in place are not necessarily designed to ensure that correct scores are given.
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Dear john.... Reply with quote

nil

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dajiang



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in Holland the entry level for uni's is somewhere like a 5.5. I've met people who had 5's on their IELTS, but they'd have to do a semester of language training before they could start on their main course.

So the money comes in anyway. I don't think the scores are in anyway different. It would be good to hear from an IELTS instructor on this though.

The fact of the matter is that there are trainloads of students in Oz, the UK, and anywhere else really, that don't speak English well enough to be there in the first place.

Dajiang
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mondrian



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: I disagree Reply with quote

johnchina wrote:
I think that's a little naive myself. The controls that are in place are not necessarily designed to ensure that correct scores are given.


Beg to differ!

Oh yes they are! Everything is now based on an international pyramid of checking and training. A new system started this April.

btw. Does the University of Buckingham still accept a Band score of 3.5 for its Foundation Course? That of course is a level of acceptibility set by the establishment.


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SueH



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The University of Buckingham, of course, being the first and I think only private and fully commercial university in the UK.
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johnchina



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: standards Reply with quote

The problem is that the standards Mondrian is talking about are only meant to ensure that all examiners at a given centre are giving the same score, not that examiners in different centres would give the same scores. William Wallace is right in saying that an even bigger problem is that unis don't set high enough standards.
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