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mette



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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Location: denmark

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Shanghai/Cheery English Reply with quote

Hi
We are two teachers from Denmark who have sought employment as English teachers in Shanghai with Cheery English - does anyone have any information about this company and working in Shanghai? Any tips etc?

Thanks, Mette
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mike3478



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also been contacted by them and would be interested to see if anyone has info on them.

Have you gotten your offer letter yet?
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Domino



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: Cheery Reply with quote

I was looking to work with them as well, that was before I did did some background searching on them and found several negative comments. I relayed the comments to them and said I was no longer interested.

At this point, they wrote me back and assured me that the comments online are bogus and they were made by really irresponsible teachers. I decided I would test the waters and give them the benefit of the doubt, so I wrote back and said that I would like assurances IN WRITING on my contract that they would not do the things that they said they were not doing to their teachers (not paying them overtime, not giving them legit visas, and excessive unpaid commuting times). A few days later I received my reply, which said they were sorry, but they had filled all of their vacancies.

Now, everything they told me could be true, but I have my doubts. They post ads for jobs on every ESL site out there almost daily and they tried to convince me to join even after I told them I was not interested. This does not seem like the behavior of a employee search that is going well.

Hope that helps.
-Derek
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prof



Joined: 25 Jun 2004
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Location: Boston/China

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghainese students are incredibly demanding...especially if they are paying for the tuition themselves (as that money could be used for other uses such as KTV or a teahouse!)

If they suspect the teacher and/or the school is dodgy it's doomed to failure.
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mike3478



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they are not even a school actually.

They are an agency that places teachers into local schools in Shanghai and supposedly Japan, and Taiwan as well.


Basically, they have two weeks of training, then the teachers are placed with a school of their choosing (in Shanghai). The teacher does a demo for the school and if the school likes the newbie teacher they hire 'em. Now, the hiring school is still not the employee, Cheery is. As such Cheery is also the one that is supposed to provide the contract and visa. In their own words "Chinese schools can't provide visas for people, so they have to use agencies like Cheery, an outside company, to do this for them". Load of bull or what!!??

I personally don't have a very good feeling about them...
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Voldermort



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike3478 wrote:
In their own words "Chinese schools can't provide visas for people, so they have to use agencies like Cheery, an outside company, to do this for them". Load of bull or what!!??


This is actually partialy true. Most schools across China are not able to get the required licence to hire foreign teachers. This could be one of several reasons, not having the 50,000 RMB fee, not being able to meet the criterea, little guanxi... etc. This is where the agencies come in. An agency, who for some reason do have the licence, are able to hire the foreigner for the school and sub-contract (farm) them out. There is nothing illegal about this, but it does come with several drawbacks.

If the school is not satisfied with the teacher, they can simply have them replaced. The agency would have many FT's on a waiting list. Behind the doors, the FT will never know what is really going on. In a case of my own, the agency tried demanding more money for me, rather than paying the school changed the teacher. If the FT likes the school and wishes to stay there, the agency would again try to make money from it somehow.

Lets say you are having problems. Who is responsible for you? Go to the agency and they will tell you the school; go to the school and they will tell you the agency. In most cases there are 3 contracts, between you and the agency, you and the school and the school and the agency. At the end of the day, you are on your own.
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